She Counts

Presence, Not Performance: The Confidence Others Feel Around You

June 17, 2026·58 min
Episode Description from the Publisher

The need for “executive presence” is the vague phrase that shows up in performance reviews as the reason women don't get the promotion – even though almost no one can define it. Lindsay Patterson, co-founder and CEO of CPA QualityPro, joins Nancy and Questian to strip it down to something simpler and more meaningful: instilling confidence in others that you're the right person for the job. They dig into the double-standard that turns an assertive woman into "aggressive"; what to do when office culture rewards the loudest jerk in the room; and why walking away from a toxic culture is never failure.SponsorsBill - http://bill.com/shecountsRelay - https://relayfi.com/shecountsKarbon - https://karbonhq.com/(00:00) - Welcome to She Counts (01:14) - Meet Lindsay Patterson (04:14) - First-Day Reporter Shock (07:07) - Lessons on Respect and Power (08:18) - Defining Executive Presence (11:45) - Double Standards and Toxic Cultures (17:13) - Presence Without Assimilation (19:35) - Being Yourself in Leadership (23:28) - Overprepared to Be Taken Seriously (25:07) - Research Gravitas Competence Warmth (27:46) - Practical Steps to Build Presence (29:30) - Rehearse Like a Pro (29:58) - Audio vs Body Language (32:00) - Handling Tech Chaos (32:31) - Dress Rehearsal Wardrobe (33:51) - Zoom Outfit Fails (35:05) - Camera On Executive Presence (37:29) - Zoom Setup and Focus (38:14) - Confidence and Composure (40:08) - First Impressions Take Space (42:32) - Navigating the Double Bind (44:24) - Power Systems and Allies (47:28) - Bias Culture and Inclusion (50:04) - Everyone Is Faking It (53:34) - Confidence Equals Preparation (55:40) - Community and Final Signoff Show notes:•   Guest on LinkedIn – linkedin.com/in/lindsaypatterson•   CPA QualityPro – cpaqualitypro.com•   The Accounting Podcast – “Solving for CPA Mobility with Lindsay Patterson” – accounting.show/472•   Amy Cuddy TED Talk – “Your body language may shape who you are” – ted.com/talks/amy_cuddy•   Sylvia Ann Hewlett – Executive Presence: The Missing Link Between Merit and Success•   Earmark CPE – earmark.app SPONSORS: [Bill, Relay, Karbon]Join Our LinkedIn Page!https://www.linkedin.com/company/she-counts-podcastSubscribe on YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@SheCountsPodcastFollow She Counts on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/shecounts.show/Connect with Nancyhttps://www.thedancingaccountant.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancy-mcclelland-cpaConnect with Questianhttps://www.reqoncilefinancials.com/

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