#181 Ben's 50th Birthday Interview

Ben turns 50 and gets put on the hot seat for a surprisingly revealing conversation about family, faith, identity, marriage, leadership, and the moments that shaped the life he's built. Tina presses Ben on everything from growing up as a pastor's kid in a constantly shifting world to the childhood feeling of being left behind, the independence that came from it, and the ways those early experiences still shape how he leads, loves, and shows up today. Ben opens up about his dad coming out, the impact of divorce, and the hard-earned realization that some wounds don't need to be explained away to be understood. Tina also gets Ben to reflect on parenting two strong-willed daughters, what he's trying to leave behind from his childhood, and the shift that happens when you stop trying to prove you've "made it" and start valuing time, people, and experience instead.