
“Values and principles should be at the backbone of any governance structure.” — Aleksejs Ivashuk What does it mean to live without a nationality? In this episode of Protection Leadership, Panos Moumtzis speaks with Aleksejs Ivashuk, founder of the Apatride Network and a leading advocate for stateless people across Europe. Drawing from his own lived experience growing up without nationality, Aleksejs offers a powerful, firsthand account of the everyday realities of statelessness; from barriers to education and housing to unpredictable discrimination and the psychological toll of existing outside legal recognition. Together, they explore how statelessness remains largely invisible within the global system, why current governance frameworks often fail those without citizenship, and how meaningful reform requires centering the voices of those directly affected. This is a moving and thought-provoking conversation about identity, dignity, belonging, and the urgent need to put statelessness and protection firmly on the global agenda. Key Takeaways Statelessness Is Often Invisible, By Design Many states do not properly identify or record stateless populations. As a result, millions remain excluded from public awareness, policy discussions, and reliable data collection. Statelessness Means Constant Uncertainty Without legal nationality, everyday activities (attending school, renting a home, opening a bank account) can become major obstacles. The lack of formal recognition creates systemic vulnerability and unpredictable discrimination. Solutions Must Center Stateless Voices Lasting reform requires meaningful participation of stateless individuals in decision-making spaces. As Aleksejs explains, inclusion must go beyond tokenism; those affected must have a seat at the table in shaping legal and policy solutions.<span id="docs-internal-guid-886d43d4-7
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