#24: Jessie Hayes (Whereby, Box) on treating people like a product and keeping frameworks light

This episode, Jonny chats to Jessie Hayes, VP People and Talent at Whereby, the London video platform.  As one of the first 'People people' on the pod, Jessie goes through her personal career journey to get to Whereby, through large companies (Goldman Sachs, Box) to small, then we dig into how to treat your people function like a product which your employees subscribe to (very novel and clever) and then get Jessie's thoughts on progression frameworks, where they've succeeded and failed and what they're doing about it at Whereby today as they scale to 160+. Jessie's links: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicamayhayes/ https://twitter.com/hijessiemay https://www.jmh.fun/ Jonny: https://twitter.com/jonnyburch Who else should we be speaking to? Be on the pod! Tell us about someone great! Just email podcast@progressionapp.com and tell us more. Our lovely sponsor: Progression! We're tackling meaty problems around career growth and hiring engineers and designers at the moment. Read more and find our open roles on our careers page: https://progressionapp.com/careers Rate us! It really helps if you rate us on iTunes. You can do that right here. https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/progression-podcast/id1435509539