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- Oct 2, 202558 min
Obey God, Defy Tyrants – A Grassroots Theology of Politics with Derin Stidd
In this episode of the Plain Speech Podcast, I sit down with Darin Stidd, a former pastor turned grassroots political activist with Young Americans for Liberty. Darin brings a rare combination of pastoral heart, sharp theology, and boots-on-the-ground political experience.Together, we tackle some of the most pressing questions Christians are asking right now:Should Christians really care about politics if Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world”?What does Romans 13 actually teach about submission to government?How should we think about separation of church and state?Why “just preach the gospel” is a gnostic distortion of Christianity.What ordinary Christians can do to push back against tyranny without running for office.Why most politicians don’t care about right and wrong — and how Christians can still force them to do the right thing.How just 3% plus one of engaged citizens can change the course of politics in your state.Derin is convinced that Christians must bring their theology into the public square and learn to wield power in ways that honor Christ. This conversation will challenge you to think biblically, act courageously, and refuse to sit on the Stiddelines.If you’re in the Northern Kentucky / Greater Cincinnati area, join us Saturday, October 25, 2025 for a free seminar with Derin Stidd:Obey God, Defy Tyrants: A Grassroots Theology of Politics📍 Christ the King Church, Fort Thomas, KY🕘 9 AM – 12 PM💻 Register hereSubscribe to the podcast and share this episode if you believe Christians need to stop retreating and start standing boldly for truth in the public square.00:00 The Reality of Political Motivations00:49 Introduction to Derin Stidd04:15 Christians and Political Involvement14:10 The Misinterpretation of 'Separation of Church and State'21:03 The Role of Christians in Government31:51 Understanding Government and Citizen Power32:56 Practical Steps for Political Engagement34:49 Biblical Perspective on Government Authority41:10 The Role of Christians in Politics42:47 The Reality of Political Systems49:33 Effective Political Strategies for Christians56:23 Final Thoughts and Event Information
- Jun 26, 20251h 18m
Debunking the Myth of MLK: A Biblical Perspective on Race and Unity
In this episode of the Plain Speech Podcast, host Michael Clary sits down with Kevin Briggins, a Christian Reformed Baptist, military veteran, and co-founder of the Center for Biblical Unity. Kevin hosts:https://www.youtube.com/ @OffCodePodcast https://www.youtube.com/ @InformedTakes https://www.youtube.com/ @centerforbiblicalunity In this eye-opening episode, they dive deep into what many Christians get wrong about Martin Luther King Jr., challenging the narrative of his faith and legacy. From the social gospel to the civil rights movement’s hidden tactics, Kevin unpacks the complexities of race, culture, and biblical unity in today’s polarized world. They also discuss the dangers of critical race theory, the manipulation of language like "whiteness" and "blackness," and the hope for a church grounded in the true gospel. Topics covered: * Common misconceptions about Martin Luther King Jr.’s faith and the civil rights movement. * The dangers of critical race theory and its impact on the church. * How terms like "whiteness" and "blackness" are manipulated to push a Marxist worldview. * The cultural pressures that divide Christians and how the gospel offers true unity. * Kevin’s personal journey from a Democratic upbringing to conservative convictions. * The future of the church in navigating racial and cultural challenges.Resources Mentioned Chad O. Jackson’s upcoming documentary on MLK: Follow Chad for updates https://www.youtube.com/ @ChadOJackson Fault Lines by Voddie Baucham https://a.co/d/aNnTnKuChristianity and Liberalism by J. Gresham Machen https://a.co/d/0gVQtBPhttps://x.com/KJBrigg Support the Plain Speech PodcastSubscribe on YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@plainspeechpodcastSubscribe on Apple Podcastshttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/plain-speech-podcast/id1715924676Subscribe on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/6YUo4Y9gnP7do3EqjzoF77?si=1c8a3514c0314f91Time Stamps00:00 Debunking Myths About Martin Luther King01:10 Introduction to the Plain Speech Podcast01:19 Meet Kevin Brigans: Background and Beliefs02:02 Navigating Race and Christianity05:47 Kevin's Journey to Conservatism06:39 Challenges of Being a Conservative Black Christian08:22 The Impact of Social Justice on Church Unity10:42 The Rise of Critical Race Theory in Churches14:17 The Dangers of Activism in Christianity26:22 Redefining Blackness and Whiteness40:03 Embracing Ethnic Heritage and Identity in Christ41:14 Navigating Racial Identity in America43:10 The Woke Right and Its Implications44:52 Challenges in Discussing Woke Ideologies49:08 Reevaluating Martin Luther King's Legacy53:36 The Civil Rights Movement: A Different Perspective01:07:39 Cultural Influences and Social Dynamics01:13:08 Future Challenges for Christians
- Apr 21, 202557 min
C.R. Wiley's Guide to the Coming A.I. Apocalypse
In this conversation, Michael Clary and C. R. Wiley delve into the complexities of artificial intelligence (AI) and its implications for society, particularly from a Christian perspective. They explore the definition of AI, its rapid advancements, and the potential threats it poses to human vocation, dominion, and the risk of idolatry. Wiley emphasizes the need for establishing boundaries around AI and discusses the concept of transhumanism, where technology intersects with human existence. The conversation concludes with reflections on how Christians can prepare for the future in a world increasingly influenced by AI. In this conversation, C. R. Wiley and Michael Clary explore the implications of artificial intelligence (AI) on spirituality, ethics, and pastoral ministry. They discuss the challenges posed by AI in prayer, the moral imperatives of technological progress, and the ethical dilemmas surrounding human enhancement technologies. The conversation also delves into the acceptable and unacceptable uses of AI in pastoral work, the integration of technology in the household, and the potential for AI to influence consciousness and spirituality, including concerns about demonic influence.Chapters00:00 Understanding AI: A New Era of Technology07:34 Theological Concerns: Vocation, Dominion, and Idolatry14:33 Navigating the AI Landscape: Living with Technology20:23 Transhumanism: The Intersection of AI and Humanity26:42 Preparing for the Future: Anticipating Change in Ministry29:08 The Role of AI in Prayer and Spirituality30:47 Technological Progress and Moral Imperatives32:44 Human Enhancement Technologies and Ethical Dilemmas36:53 AI in Pastoral Ministry: Acceptable vs. Unacceptable Uses45:03 Integrating Technology in the Household50:13 AI, Consciousness, and Potential Demonic Influence
- Apr 14, 20251h 14m
Jeff Durbin: I Never Thought I'd be a Pastor
In this conversation, Jeff shares his testimony of transformation from a life of addiction to a life dedicated to Christ. He recounts his early experiences with martial arts, his struggles with substance abuse, and the pivotal moments that led to his conversion. Jeff emphasizes the importance of discipleship and accountability in his journey, ultimately leading to the founding of Apologia Church, which serves those recovering from addiction. The discussion also touches on the challenges of integrating faith with recovery and the role of apologetics in his ministry. In this conversation, Jeff Durbin shares his journey of faith, mentorship, and the challenges of ministry. He reflects on his early encounters with evangelism, the influence of key figures in his life, and the role of the Holy Spirit in his work. Durbin discusses the balance between personal life and ministry, the joys and difficulties of serving in the church, and the importance of community support in his calling.00:00 God's Calling to Plant a Church00:32 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest01:00 King's Domain Conference Announcement03:08 Jeff Durbin's Personal Testimony07:51 Struggles with Addiction and Turning Point17:17 Transformation and Ministry Beginnings23:25 Challenges and Growth of Apologia Church26:31 Cultural Changes and Christian Leadership28:45 Reflections on Grace and Ministry37:54 Facing Challenges in Ministry39:14 Journey to Street Evangelism39:55 Early Influences and Inspirations42:36 Meeting James White and Growing in Apologetics56:53 Reflections on God's Work and Personal Growth01:04:16 Balancing Ministry and Personal Life01:07:54 The Role of Martial Arts in Shaping Ministry01:14:21 Concluding Thoughts and Future Events
- Apr 7, 202554 min
Joe Rigney - The Sin of Empathy
In this conversation, Joe Rigney discusses his book 'The Sin of Empathy,' exploring the complexities and dangers of empathy in modern society. He contrasts empathy with sympathy, examines the biblical perspective on these emotions, and critiques the emotional manipulation that can arise from excessive empathy. Rigney argues that compassion has been elevated to a control virtue, often leading to selective empathy that neglects justice. He emphasizes the need for a balanced approach to compassion and emotional engagement, warning against the potential for empathy to lead to cruelty when disconnected from moral truth. In this conversation, Joe Rigney explores the complexities of compassion and empathy, particularly in the context of Christian leadership and pastoral care. He discusses the dangers of untethered empathy, the importance of maintaining boundaries, and the role of flattery in compromising truth. Rigney offers practical advice for pastors on how to navigate difficult situations with compassion while remaining anchored in truth. He concludes with insights on preparing for future challenges in Christian living, drawing lessons from the Book of Judges.Chapters00:00 Introduction: The Devil's Tactics00:21 Guest Introduction: Dr. Joe Rigney00:31 Upcoming Event: King's Domain Conference02:13 Interview Begins: The Sin of Empathy02:48 Understanding Empathy and Sympathy04:12 Book Comparisons: Leadership and Emotional Sabotage vs. The Sin of Empathy07:44 Biblical Context: Empathy vs. Sympathy15:36 Empathy as Emotional Manipulation17:47 Cultural Shifts and Challenges23:55 Empathy in Modern Contexts28:36 The Sin of Empathy: A Controversial Perspective29:47 Lewis's Passion of Pity and Dangerous Compassion32:15 Empathy vs. Enmeshment: The Boundaries Debate33:43 Flattery and Deception in Christian Ministry35:49 The Trap of Seeking Compassionate Reputation41:03 Future-Proof Christianity: Standing Firm in Changing Times42:34 Practical Advice for Pastors: Balancing Compassion and Truth51:24 Navigating Tribalism in Modern Christianity53:37 Conclusion and Upcoming Conference Details
- Mar 18, 20251h 7m
Overcoming Trials in Ministry: A Conversation with Pastor Tom Ascol
In this episode of the Plain Speech Podcast, host Michael Clary is joined by Pastor Tom Ascol from Grace Baptist Church in Cape Coral, Florida. They discuss the challenges and transformations of Ascol’s nearly four-decade tenure at the church, the fight for doctrinal integrity within the Southern Baptist Convention, and the importance of maintaining a gospel-centered ministry. Pastor Ascol shares personal stories of church splits, leadership struggles, and his insights into the pervasive influence of feminism in the church. He also talks about the role of the Founders Ministry, the inception of the Institute of Public Theology, and upcoming plans for a residential seminary focused on creating resilient Christian leaders. This conversation provides invaluable advice and encouragement for both seasoned and aspiring pastors.00:00 Introduction to Christian Faith01:28 Welcome to the Plain Speech Podcast01:45 Tom Ascol's Journey with Founders Ministry03:43 Challenges and Changes at Grace Baptist Church21:52 The Importance of Godly Leadership27:05 Founders Ministry and Its Impact35:02 Introduction to the Seminary Program36:54 The Inerrancy Controversy39:25 Challenges and Controversies in Theology42:46 The Rise of Reformed Theology53:23 Feminism and Modern Challenges01:01:32 Advice for Young Ministers01:06:49 Conclusion and Upcoming Events
- Mar 11, 20251h 2m
Raising Up Future Pastors and Leaders with David Schrock
In this episode of the Plain Speech Podcast, host Michael Clary is joined by David Schrock. They discuss the importance of investing in young men for leadership roles within the local church, practical steps for pastoral training, and the potential pitfalls and strategies for theological education. David Schrock, also a keynote speaker for the upcoming King's Domain Conference on 'Future Proof Christianity,' shares insights on the current challenges and opportunities for young men entering ministry today. The conversation also delves into the history and current controversies surrounding the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission (ERLC) and what reforms might be necessary. Tune in for an enlightening discussion on raising future leaders and ensuring they are well-equipped for the challenges ahead.00:00 Introduction and Small Beginnings00:22 Meet the Hosts: Michael Clary and David Schrock00:45 Raising Future Leaders in the Church01:47 The Impact of the Negative World11:25 The Role of Seminary Training14:48 The Importance of Embodied Learning24:45 Pastoral Training Programs31:16 Strengths and Weaknesses of Seminary Education33:35 The Role of Local Churches in Pastoral Training35:55 Balancing Seminary and Local Church Training37:26 Indianapolis Theological Seminary: A Model for the Future44:14 Challenges and Solutions for Rural Pastoral Training48:46 Addressing Theological Errors in the Church52:54 The Business of Isness: A New Book55:46 Christ Over All and the ERLC01:00:58 Upcoming Conference and Final Thoughts
- Dec 19, 20241h 4m
How Christian Persecution is on the Rise
In this episode of the Plain Speech podcast, Alex Kocman discusses the broad definition of persecution in a Christian context. Alex, who serves as the Director of Communications and Engagement at ABWE and an Elder at Faith Bible Fellowship Church, explores how persecution can come in varying degrees and forms, not just overt physical violence but also subtle societal pressures. He shares insights on how Christians are facing severe persecution worldwide, particularly in countries like Nigeria, Armenia, and regions of India. The conversation delves into the theological and practical implications of persecution, addressing the balance between suffering for Christ and not unnecessarily seeking martyrdom. Alex emphasizes the importance of maintaining a witness for Christ amidst cultural pressures and the role that different forms of opposition play in the sanctification of believers. The episode concludes with a reflection on how Christians should utilize their freedoms and resources to further the mission of the church globally. 00:00 Introduction to Alex Kocman 01:24 Defining Persecution 06:09 Global Hotspots of Persecution 14:37 Persecution in America 19:51 The Nature of Persecution and Christian Witness 33:05 The Pedestal of Persecution 34:20 Winsomeness Controversy and Cultural Shifts 36:15 Internal Conflicts Among Christians 37:15 Paul's Response to Opposition 38:41 The Role of Suffering in Christian Life 43:50 Balancing Truth and Compassion 51:59 Martyr Complex and Misguided Zeal 01:01:47 Holistic Christian Mission 01:03:14 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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