Other People's Money with Max Wiethe

Interest Rates to 10%: Why the Treasury Market is the Real Speculative Bubble (Not AI) | Russell Clark

July 22, 2026·1h 5m
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Learn more about Teucrium’s Soybean ETF (SOYB) here: https://teucrium.com/soyb Free E-book from Teucrium: https://insights.teucrium.com/why-investors-turning-to-commodity-etfs In this episode of Other People's Money, Max Wiethe sits down with hedge fund manager Russell Clark to discuss why he believes the U.S. Treasury market is a much larger and more dangerous speculative bubble than AI. Clark details his macroeconomic outlook, arguing that a shifting political landscape focused on 7% wage growth and lower living costs will eventually push the 10-year Treasury yield up to an astonishing 10%. To stabilize affordability for younger generations, he predicts real estate will remain flat nominally while heavily declining in real terms. Clark also breaks down the massive capital expenditures in AI, viewing them as defensive strategies by legacy tech giants to protect their moats rather than mere speculation. Finally, Clark also warns about sectors reliant on low rates and the severe illiquidity and mispriced risks currently lurking within the private credit and private equity markets. Read Russell’s Substack: https://www.russell-clark.com Follow Russell Clark on X: https://x.com/rampagingruss Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod SOYB Fund Page & Prospectus: www.teucrium.com/soyb Investing in SOYB involves risk, including the possible loss of principal. Commodity investments are subject to significant volatility. Past performance is not indicative of future results. Investors should carefully consider the investment objectives, risks, charges, and expenses of the Teucrium Soybean Fund before investing. The prospectus contains this and other important information about the Fund. This material must be proceeded or accompanied by the prospectus. The prospectus is available atteucrium.com/soyb. Marketing Agent: PINE Distributors LLC. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:38 Why Treasuries Look Risky 04:33 Foreign Reserves Shift from Gold to Bonds 08:59 Politics Turns Inflationary 14:12 Japan Leads 16:09 Wage Inflation Drives Yields 20:37 Sponsor Break SOYB 21:58 High Real Rates New Normal 26:14 Trading Long View vs Noise 29:09 Housing Tug of War 34:02 Politics Converge Anyway 36:03 Chips Are New Oil 38:38 Is AI a Bubble? 44:12 AI and Wage Politics 50:37 Strategic AI Spending 54:17 Leverage Unwind Risks 59:29 Private Credit Red Flags 01:04:13 Wrap Up and Links

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