
Ashley joins the podcast for the first time, and the conversation turns toward something many people know too well: church hurt. But instead of using that phrase as a blanket accusation against the whole body of Christ, Zach, Jill, Brandon, and Ashley discuss what it really means to be hurt by broken people inside the church, and how Jesus can still heal what people damaged. They share pieces of their own stories: church planting, betrayal, firing, isolation, NDAs, spiritual confusion, and the temptation to “burn it all down.” But they also discuss the moment that changed everything: choosing silence instead of retaliation, prayer instead of accusation, and building a community for Jesus instead of against the people who hurt them.
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