
"Bitcoin doesn't need more believers. Bitcoin needs more understanders." Shadrach & Gigi take a walk in Madeira. Recorded during SEC-07. Listen on sovereignengineering.io Projects & tech mentioned: Archipelago (sovereign home node and mesh network platform) Archipelago Foundation Archipelago promo video AtoB (interoperable service protocol, co-authored with Gzuuus) Angor (Bitcoin-native crowdfunding; Archipelago placed 2nd in the Angor pitch contest) Podcasting 2.0 (open podcast ecosystem) #DeMu (decentralized music on Nostr) Fountain (podcasting app with value-for-value) castr.me (Nostr-to-RSS podcast feed) Indie Hub (independent film distribution on Archipelago) Plebeian Market / Shopstr / Conduit (Nostr marketplaces) Zap Store (Nostr-based app store) Fedimint (federated eCash) / Cashu (eCash on Bitcoin) Framework (modular laptop hardware) Meshtastic / Meshcore (mesh networking) Start9 / Umbrel (existing node platforms) GrapheneOS (privacy-focused Android) In this dialogue: The episode opens discussing the podcasting 2.0 publishing workflow: AI models can now generate the XML spec, value splits and all Spencer's idea: every venue gets an npub, the venue starts the live stream rather than the artist Shadrach's #DeMu journey: tried to orange pill Austin musicians, but they were too disillusioned. Pay-to-play venues, Spotify killing label revenue. Value for value as social signaling: free-to-play games make millions from cosmetic skins. Adam Curry gets it -- his listeners aren't listeners, they're producers. Shadrach's path: punk rock DIY ethos to sysadmin, industrial Bitcoin mining in Texas, S9 miners sold for scrap metal The Meshtadel: a network of citadels meshed together. Any node can be taken out and the system routes around the failure. "I'm here to orange pill the Amish": moved to Lancaster, PA for food security, rented a farmer's market stall just to talk about Bitcoin Printed Cashu certificates for the Amish, horse and buggy to the Bitcoin bank drive-through. Fedimint stability pools make this feasible. "Bitcoin doesn't need more believers. Bitcoin needs more understanders." Archipelago: sovereign home node on Framework laptop hardware, plugs into your TV, companion app, modular and upgradeable Indie Hub: independent films on day one, directors set their own pricing, distributed via paid torrents The reversed marketplace: broadcast what you want to buy as an encrypted blob on Nostr. Agents match buyers and sellers. "Salespeople will hate it." -- "I know." AtoB protocol: made ride-sharing apps (Ridester, Drivester, Trotter) interoperable. Two devs refactored in a day using AI. Web of trust is Nostr's killer feature: people wrote about it in the seventies, PGP signing parties never caught on Nostr VPN: every device gets an npub, devices find each other the same way people do on Nostr SovEng: "the most incredible experience I've ever had in my life" and "some of the most exhausting" "We are back again in the early days. And we just have to make it work."
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