
This is a different kind of episode: a stream-of-consciousness solo processing on the messiness of awakening—religious trauma, ego death, grief, and the raw need for connection.Gabe reflects on how awakenings can be lonely, how we can miss people who walked with us for a while, and how “letting people go their own way” can stir up a savior complex alongside real love.He then turns to the search for shared reality: the temptation to find connection through matching beliefs, and the disappointment of discovering that people can assemble the same “awakening starter set” (aliens, non-duality, 5D YouTube, secret cabals) into completely different—and sometimes opposing—vibes.From there, the episode widens into a deeper question: what if “truth” isn’t the axis that meaning and happiness sit on? Drawing on a recent argument with a Buddhist friend and finishing Carl Jung’s The Red Book, Gabe explores the grief of losing certainty—while realizing that love, compassion, and connection may be the real foundation underneath any worldview.Here for the esoteric origins of Mormonism? Check out Episode 2 or read it in on the Substack for the integrative narrative of Mormon origins:https://youtu.be/5YBeMrR1seMhttps://mysticsandmuons.substack.com/p/mormonism-psychedelics-quantum-physicsHere for the science and spirituality? Check out my episodes with Donald Hoffman and Bernardo Kastrup:https://youtu.be/k1myPJHr9vghttps://youtu.be/05o6YbgzEjshttps://youtu.be/s4iRX3o8VRYPlease rate, share, and get in touch at mysticsandmuons@gmail.com!Chapters:00:00 Introduction – a different kind of episode01:10 Awakening, religious trauma, ego death, grief02:03 Missing Elden and letting people go03:17 Loneliness and the craving for connection04:44 Gurus, pedestals, and disappointment05:45 Belief-matching vs “vibe” (love & compassion)07:13 The “awakening starter set” and opposite narratives09:04 Arguing materialism vs idealism—and why12:56 Jung’s The Red Book and the death of certainty14:15 Truth vs meaning: joy, happiness, and “orthogonal axes”18:14 Experience as “ground truth” and stabilizing it20:12 Self/other boundaries, dissociation, and choice22:50 The “middle child” between rationality and woo25:51 Politics, empathy, anger, and a middle way28:21 Creating online, community, and the loneliness of posting32:00 Vulnerability, window of tolerance, and turning off comments33:41 Closing the loop: reaching out and creating connection36:12 Paradox, spiritual bypassing, and why keep sharing38:15 Resilience, the “matrix,” and alchemizing suffering40:42 Wrap-up – turning pain into meaning
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