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- 2 days ago35 min
Retrospective - Promoting Theatre
“It started off with a lot of Zoom calls. I was in Sydney and of course TJ is in New York. I've done two productions in the UK in 2025 and 2024. And both times the way I've kind of approached it was mostly through online Zoom meetings where I would put up a casting call. We'd get a lot of applicants and I'd get self tapes coming in and then I do meetups with them online to get a sense of how they were to perform. And this play was about two months worth of auditions that we went through.”This episode is with playwright TJ Elliot of Knowledge Workings Theatre and Liviu Monsted of Mon Sans Productions.We talk about their show ‘Retrospective’ which is on at Barons Court Theatre in London until 23rd May, the London Pub Theatre scene and how it compares with other locations such as Off-Broadway.We talk about casting a show that crosses three continents as well as promoting the show through traditional methods and Social Media.Knowledge Workings Theatre: https://www.instagram.com/knowledgeworkingstheater/ Mon Sans Productions: https://www.instagram.com/monsansproductions/ Show Details: https://knowledgeworkings.wpcomstaging.com/retrospective-at-barons-court-may-14-23-2026-2/ Tickets: https://www.baronscourttheatre.com/retrospective Find More about ‘Making Creativity Pay’Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingcreativitypay/ Making Creativity Pay Newsletter: https://makingcreativitypay.substack.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danjbarnett/
- Apr 13, 202632 min
Rosalie Minnitt - Lady Clementine
“I was invited to go to this theatre in Wolverhampton and I'm always a little bit nervous about going to places where I'm not entirely sure how the show is going to land…and it ended up just being such a fun show and the audience was so giving and so generous. That kind of restored my faith in humanity a little bit because these people who had probably just seen it in a brochure had just taken a chance on it. And I think sometimes you get into this bubble that it's, either you do it in Edinburgh or London and then regional touring is a waste of time but I have such a different view on it.” Latest episode is with Comedian Rosalie MinnittWe talk about her character creation Clementine and Clementine’s Valentine’s Day show on Radio 4 as well as the differences between playing Clementine on stage and on Radio.We also discuss Rosalie’s experience of the Edinburgh Fringe as well as the challenges and joys of taking Clementine on tour at theatres across the country.Website: https://rosalieminnitt.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rosalieminnitt/ Live Shows: https://linktr.ee/rosalieminnitt Clementine Valentine’s Day Special on Radio 4: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002rdb9 Find More about ‘Making Creativity Pay’Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingcreativitypay/ Making Creativity Pay Newsletter: https://makingcreativitypay.substack.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danjbarnett/
- Apr 1, 202637 min
Live Comedy Day!
Latest episode is with Geoff Rowe of the Live Comedy AssociationWe talk about the first Live Comedy Day which takes place on April 1st as well as the wider aims of the Live Comedy Association in both acting as a network for the industry and also acting as a united front for the industry when dealing with the government.We also discuss the Live Comedy Survey conducted by Brunel University on the Live Comedy Sector as well as comparison with organisations in other sectors such as the Music Venue Trust.Live Comedy Day: https://livecomedyday.co.uk/ Live Comedy Association: https://livecomedyassociation.co.uk/ Comedy Sector Survey: https://livecomedyassociation.co.uk/comedy-survey Find More about ‘Making Creativity Pay’Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingcreativitypay/ Making Creativity Pay Newsletter: https://makingcreativitypay.substack.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danjbarnett/
- Mar 29, 202645 min
Girl Gone Wild - Courtney Kocak
"It's a small town girls misadventures in Hollywood. And it is both poignant and funny. I think of the essays as like crepes. They're kind of like individually snackable, but collectively filling.What I love about the essay format is it's kind of propulsive and you move through it with the momentum that I really appreciate as a reader. And so I wanted to write the book that way."- Author and Podcaster Courtney Kocak, we talk about her upcoming book Girl Gone Wild, a memoir based on a series of essays covering “Tales of ambition, delusion, drugs, sex, and misogyny... including selling T-shirts on the Girls Gone Wild bus”As well as the book we also talk about Courtney’s varied career, from performing as a stand-up, writing for an animated comedy show as well as her extensive career in podcasting including her show Private Parts Unknown which has had over 2 million downloads and her newsletter Podcast Bestie which is full of ways to make the most of your podcast.Website: https://www.courtneykocak.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneykocak/ Girl Gone Wild: US: https://bookshop.org/p/books/girl-gone-wild-courtney-kocak/ UK: https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/girl-gone-wild-courtney-kocak/18ae2cd0ad59de93 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PrivatePartsUnknown Private Parts Unknown Podcast: https://pod.link/1154304419 The Bleeders Podcast: https://pod.link/1628014529 Podcast Bestie Substack: https://podcastbestie.substack.com/welcome Find More about ‘Making Creativity Pay’Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingcreativitypay/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danjbarnett/ Making Creativity Pay Newsletter: https://makingcreativitypay.substack.com/
- Mar 22, 202636 min
Artpreneur - Miriam Schulman
“I'm telling all my artists to go on LinkedIn. It's like a nice frontier.”Latest episode is with Artist and author of 'Artpreneur' Miriam Schulman.We talk about her giving up working in Financial Services to focus full time on her art, we also talk about the process of getting her book Artpreneur made and published as well as The Inspiration Place Podcast which has just had it’s 400th Episode and how even the business side of things engages her creativity.Website: https://www.schulmanart.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/schulmanart/ LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/schulmanart YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@schulmanart The Inspiration Place PodcastSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/27RvGQBHdUorqSTPNri2cA Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-inspiration-place/id1431934450 Find More about ‘Making Creativity Pay’Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingcreativitypay/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danjbarnett/ Making Creativity Pay Newsletter: https://makingcreativitypay.substack.com/
- Mar 15, 202642 min
A Haunted House - David Hoskin
Latest guest is David Hoskin talking about his ‘Comedy Horror Mime’ show A Haunted House we talk about taking the show to the Edinburgh Fringe, his upcoming (at time of recording) stints at Soho Theatre and Mumbai Fringe, how to balance Comedy and Horror and his creative career from Illustration to Voiceovers to Film Making.Website: https://www.davidhoskin.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/davidhoskinperformer/ Find More about ‘Making Creativity Pay’Twitter: https://twitter.com/Beyond_the_Pod Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingcreativitypay/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danjbarnett/ Making Creativity Pay Newsletter: https://makingcreativitypay.substack.com/
- Feb 22, 202638 min
Vertical Drama Love - Jen Cooper
“ Everyone wants to get involved and it's generating huge amount of work for actors and crew all around the world, which is very hard to find in other parts of the media. So Hollywood is now involved as well, and every major Hollywood studio you can think of is looking or experimenting with this format and sort of seeing how they can bring the Hollywood touch to it.” Latest guest is Jen Cooper, founder of Vertical Drama Love.Jen is an expert in the rapidly growing area of vertical dramas, we talk about what vertical dramas are and the rapid rise in popularity of vertical dramas in the west and the change in the format from its beginnings in China.We talk about what moving from niche to mainstream in the west may mean for the format, how large players like Disney starting to offer vertical content may change things and also the impact for Jen as someone who has been involved in the sector initially as a fan and now as a consultant. Website: https://www.verticaldramalove.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/verticaldramalove/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@verticaldramalove Guardian Vertical Drama Article: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2026/feb/18/vertical-drama-phone-films-to-watch Find More about ‘Making Creativity Pay’Twitter: https://twitter.com/Beyond_the_Pod Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingcreativitypay/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danjbarnett/ Making Creativity Pay Newsletter: https://makingcreativitypay.substack.com/
- Feb 5, 202658 min
Chat Sh*t Get Hit - Martha Pailing
“He said ‘[I hate] loud Northern women who swear’ and he’s obviously talking about me” Latest guest is Martha Pailing whose show ‘Chat Sh*t, Get Hit’ is on at Soho Theatre on Feb 5th and 6th.We talk about developing the show over a number of years and the importance of Arts Council Funding, her Fringe experience, working with a team behind the scenes on her solo show as well as the differences between Spoken Word and Stand Up.Website: https://www.marthapailing.com/ Soho Theatre Tickets: https://sohotheatre.com/events/chat-sht-get-hit Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marthapailing/ Find More about ‘Making Creativity Pay’Twitter: https://twitter.com/Beyond_the_Pod Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingcreativitypay/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danjbarnett/ Making Creativity Pay Newsletter: https://makingcreativitypay.substack.com/
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About Making Creativity Pay
Welcome to ‘Making Creativity Pay’, this isn’t a podcast about making millions, more about speaking to people in creative industries whether that’s music, literature, art or anything that relies on creativity about how that ties in with making a living from it.The aim is not about selling out any creative endeavour but to ensure that there is at least some way to pay the bills and keep the lights on, money can be seen to be a vulgar part of the process but getting fairly paid for the time, effort and expertise you put in to something shouldn't be a bad thing.
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