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Love is the Message: Music, Dance & Counterculture is a new show from Tim Lawrence and Jeremy Gilbert, both of them authors, academics, DJs and dance party organisers. Tune in, Turn on and Get Down to in-depth discussion of the sonic, social and political legacies of radical movements from the 1960s to today. Starting with David Mancuso's NYC Loft parties, we’ll explore the countercultural sounds, scenes and ideas of the late 20th and early 21st centuries. ”There’s one big party going on all the time. Sometimes we get to tune into it.” The rest of the time there’s Love Is The Message.
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This is an excerpt from a patrons-only show. To hear the full thing, plus dozens more like it, visit Patreon.com/LoveMessagePod to sign up.In this episode Tim responds to Boy George’s recent musical offering, ‘We Will Dance Again’. To respect BDS, we won’t be playing this AI-generated apologia for the Gaza genocide, or anything else from George’s catalogue, but Tim does explore the British singer’s confused history of political pronouncements on this and other issues, alongside some contemporaneous synth-pop from his New Romantic heyday. Elsewhere in the episode Tim talks about his own Jewish upbringing, the history of Israel, the nation’s participation in Eurovision, current reflections on the horrors being perpetrated in Palestine, and some modern and vintage Palestinian liberation music. Patreon.com/LoveMessagePodwww.loveisthemessagepod.co.ukTracklist:The Equals - Black Skinned Blue Eyed Boys Visage - Fade to Grey Heaven 17 - (We Don’t Need This) Fascist Groove Thing Kofia - Leve Palestina Roger Waters - Comfortably Numb Re-Imagined
Love is the Message returns from our summer break just in time for the Bank Holiday Weekend, which in London means one thing: Carnival. In this episode Jeremy and Tim cover the history of Notting Hill Carnival, the largest such event in Europe. They discuss patterns of Caribbean migration to the UK, traditions of carnival from Ancient Greece to Trinidad and Rio, and the particular story of Notting Hill, with its steel bands, dub sound systems, parade and party. They return to Lovers Rock, consider legendary stages like Aba Shanti, Good Times and Saxon, and interrogate how Bakhtinian and Deleuzian ideas can be applied to this unique expression of Black British culture. Plus: David Mancuso in Trinidad, and a young Jeremy tries to buy Pass the Dutchie. If you’re going to Carnival this weekend, enjoy yourself and take plenty of water!Patreon.com/LoveMessagePodLoveisthemessagepod.co.ukProduced by Matt HuxleyTracklist:Laurel Aitkin - Boogie in my Bones Hells Gate Steel Orchestra - Ah Love It Here Sir Coxson - King of the Dubb Rock Louisa Mark - Caught You in a Lie ASWAD - Concrete Slaveship Smiley Culture - Cockney Translation Papa Levi - Mi God Mi King Ted Taylor - Ghetto Disco (Norman Jay Edit) Cajmere - Brighter Days Aba Shanti-I - Zulu Warrior Moliy x Shenseea x Skillibeng - Shake It To The Max
We at LITM are still on our summer break, but while we’re away we wanted to share this interview on that most Northern of subjects, Mark E Smith of The Fall. Joining Jeremy for this discussion is Dr David Wilkinson. With reference to David’s essay ‘Mark E. Smith, Brexit Britain and the Aesthetics and Politics of the Working Class Weird’, the pair get into the weeds on Smith’s complicated politics, working class conservatism, the Weird, and the type of guy MES represents: autodidactic, contrarian, nostalgic, boozy. They relate The Fall’s work to pulp Modernism, loss and libertarianism, excavate the role of boredom in the development of the band’s sound, and ask: why should we care?David Wilkinson is the author of the book ‘Post-Punk, Politics and Pleasure in Britain’. He is Senior Lecturer in English at Manchester Metropolitan University.Thanks so much to David for sharing his time and thoughts. Tim and Jeremy will return together in the next few weeks.Patreon.com/LoveMessagePodwww.loveisthemessagepod.co.ukProduced by Matt Huxley
It's just Jem this week, mopping up the last suds of our post punk mini-series with a series of British bands who ripped it up and started again. We spend time with The Slits fantastic dub punk debut Cut, shouting out the production of the great Dennis Bovell on the way, then drive up the M1 to explore the rich pickings of that great musical city, Sheffield. With reference to an early Human League single, Jem unearths the imminent possibilities of the crumbling Fordist world. We hear two tracks from Public Image Ltd, before digging into one of our host’s favourites - the Raincoats - to explore feminist aesthetics, Maoist China and an unlikely meeting with Kurt Cobain. We round out the piece with two classics from the mighty Clash. Not a bad haul for one year. We’ll be away for a few weeks on various summer excursions, but will be back soon after with more music, dance floors, sound systems and counterculture. Tune in, turn on, get down!Patreon.com/LoveMessagePodhttps://www.loveisthemessagepod.co.uk/ Produced by Matt HuxleyTracklist: The Slits - Typical Girls The Slits - Adventures Close to Home Human League - Empire State Human Public Image Ltd - Death Disco Public Image Ltd - Socialist The Raincoats - Fairytale in the Supermarket The Raincoats - Lola The Clash - London Calling The Clash - Lost in the Supermarket Books:Audrey Golden - Shouting Out Loud: Lives of the Raincoats Frith & Horn - Art into Pop Reynolds & Press - The Sex Revolts: Gender, Rebellion and Rock’n’Roll
This is an excerpt from a patrons-only episode. To hear the full show, and dozens more like it, visit Patreon.com/LoveMessagePod to join.We made it: what started as a ten-minute conversation and became a six episode mini-series finally reaches it conclusion, with the 1978 release of Arthur Russell’s Kiss Me Again. Jeremy and Tim conclude the genealogy of this epic track, detailing it’s recording, dry runs in the club, how the record was sold to the punky Sire Records, and how the Arthur came to put together the players. Friend of the show Nicky Siano gets an extensive mention as the record's co-producer, and his club the Gallery plays host to its first outings. Tim and Jeremy compare notes on how Nicky’s aesthetic differed from David Mancuso’s, share the story of how Arthur came to begin dancing at the Gallery, and explore his queerness both in contact with the dance floor and with his friend and mentor Allen Ginsberg. Elsewhere in the episode the guys ruminate on soft rock, spend a bit longer talking minimalism, and detail Arthur’s ill-fated trip to Italy to join Le Orme…Tracklist:Nirosta Steel - Lost in Music Arthur Russell - Don’t Forget About Me Allen Ginsberg - CIA Dope Calypso Le Orme - Canzone D’Amore Arthur Russell - Oh Fernanda Why Barbara Pennington - Twenty Four Hours a Day Desmond Child and Rouge - The Night was Not
We’ve finally made it - the pivotal Post Punk year of 1979. Well, sort of. It wouldn’t be LITM without a little extra detail, so Jeremy and Tim cue up our arrival with a couple of tracks from ’78 for good measure. They talk Tom Robinson Band, Undertones and the Only Ones, exploring ‘dole queue rock’, everydayness and the limits of politically self-conscious music of the period. Later in the show they tuck into a couple of indie disco staples to examine emergent New Wave, de-masculination, Manchester and the Iron Lady. Finally, for the first time on the show, the guys spend time on perhaps the most iconic post punkers of all: Joy Division. This is our last main feed episode for a little while - we'll be back in mid-August. Until then, why not become a Patron and explore our LITM Extra archive, featuring dozens of bonus shows?Patreon.com/LoveMessagePodwww.loveisthemessagepod.co.ukProduced by Matt Huxley.Tracklist:Tom Robinson Band - Winter of ’79The Undertones - Teenage Kicks The Only Ones - Another Girl, Another Planet Blondie - Heart of Glass Machine - There But for the Grace of God Go I The Cure - Boys Don’t Cry Joy Division - Disorder
This is an excerpt from a patrons-only episode. To hear the full thing, plus dozens more like it, visit Patreon.com/LoveMessagePod.We continue our mini-series on Arthur Russell by turning to his mid-70s pop and folk work. Starting in the famous Poet’s Building in 1975, Tim and Jeremy explore life in the East Village, in particular the area’s poetry scene. They discuss the aesthetics of setting spoken word to music, stop by Ginsberg, and drop in some Tibetan Buddhist classes. Elsewhere in the episode we hear about a number of recording sessions at the Columbia Records studio, get haunted by the spectre of Dylan, and speculate on whether Arthur could have been the fourth Talking Head. Tim shares some demos from Arthur’s short-lived band the Flying Hearts, a version of Psycho Killer with punchy cello that didn’t make the final cut, and some Laraaji-ish keyboard noodlings.www.loveisthemessagepod.co.ukPatreon.com/LoveMessagePodProduced by Matt Huxley.Books:Philippe Bourgeois - In Search of Respect: Selling Crack in El BarrioTracklist:Arthur Russell - Barefoot in New York William Carlos Williams - The Red Wheelbarrow Bright and Early - Apple to the Orange Arthur Russell - Nobody Wants a Lonely Heart Arthur Russell - I Couldn’t Say it to Your Face Arthur Russell - Reach One (with Two Fender Rhodes) Talking Heads - The Girls Want to be with the Girls Talking Heads - Psycho Killer (acoustic version) The Flying Hearts - Ballad of the Lights The Flying Hearts - What’s It Like
In this episode we return to the Mudd Club, NYC’s ‘intense laboratory’ of cinema, performance, dance and music. We hear about how this new kind of club fused these various media in novel ways, both as a day-to-day scene hang out spot and a site of never-ending unusual parties (‘Rock’n’Roll Funeral Ball Extravaganza’ anyone?). Tim and Jeremy detail the movement of artists into the East Village in the late 70s, the Fluxus inspiration for the Club’s goings on, and throw a little light on another less well-remembered venue, Club 57.Elsewhere in the episode the guys talk about The Cure, Lou Reed, retromania and cable TV, whilst also spending a moment on the legacy of Anita Sarko, a much-loved DJ on the scene.Produced by Matt Huxley.Patreon.com/LoveMessagePod.Loveisthemessagepod.co.uk.Tracklist:Shrapnel - Combat Love Policeband - Mono The Cure - Killing an Arab Lou Reed - Vicious Bobby Freeman - Betty Lou Got a New Pair of Shoes
Love is the Message: Music, Dance & Counterculture is a new show from Tim Lawrence and Jeremy Gilbert, both of them authors, academics, DJs and dance party organisers. Tune in, Turn on and Get Down to in-depth discussion of the sonic, social and political legacies of radical movements from the 1960s to today. Starting with David Mancuso's NYC Loft parties, we’ll explore the countercultural sounds, scenes and ideas of the late 20th and early 21st centuries. ”There’s one big party going on all the time. Sometimes we get to tune into it.” The rest of the time there’s Love Is The Message.
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