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- Feb 24, 202539 min
E12: AI, Ego Death, and the End of Reality? | Sam Rad | Leaders of AI
Join Julia McCoy and Dave Shapiro in Episode 12 of Leaders of AI as they sit down with radical futurist and anthropologist Sam Rad, author of Radical Next. Dive into a mind-bending conversation about AI’s existential impact on humanity, societal collapse, and the rebirth of systems. 💥Key topics discussed: Societal paradigm shifts: Death and rebirth cycles of global systems (economy, governance, identity). AI’s existential questions: “What does it mean to be human in a post-reality world?” Perception manipulation: How tech (VR, algorithms, urban design) warps reality today. Decentralized futures: Blockchains, DAOs, and the collapse of nation-states. Art vs. AI: Why creativity is humanity’s last stand against bland AI-generated content. Quantum computing: The coming “post-quantum” chaos and cognitive security threats. Team Human: Balancing techno-optimism with radical reconnection to humanity. Order Sam’s groundbreaking book Radical Next and learn why the stakes have never been higher. 🔥 Smash that LIKE button if you’re ready for the AI revolution, and SUBSCRIBE for weekly deep dives into tech’s future! Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/leaders-of-ai/id1776902731 Watch YouTube to catch the video versions: https://www.youtube.com/@leadersofaipodcast Follow Hosts/Guests Julia: https://www.instagram.com/juliaemccoy/ https://www.youtube.com/@JuliaMcCoy Dave: https://x.com/DaveShapi https://www.youtube.com/@DaveShap Sam Rad: https://sam-rad.com/ https://www.instagram.com/samradofficial/ Learn About First Movers www.firstmovers.ai
- Feb 15, 202553 min
E11: DeepSeek-R1: The $5M AI Model Disrupting Silicon Valley | Leaders Of AI
🚀 Episode 11 Alert! David Shapiro hosts John Gibbs (CEO of Automattic, PhD, and host of Doctor Know It All) for an explosive discussion on DeepSeek-R1—the Chinese AI model rattling global markets and rewriting AI economics. 💥 In this episode: Why NVIDIA’s stock crashed 17% overnight Can a $5M open-source model outperform billion-dollar projects? Geopolitical chess: China’s AI surge vs. Western dominance The "Mozart Paradox": How constraints breed AI innovation Ethical minefields: Copyright, job displacement, and AGI’s looming shadow 🔍 John breaks down why synthetic data and self-play reinforcement learning could democratize AI, why Hollywood isn’t safe from disruption, and how leaders can navigate the AI arms race. 🔥 FOLLOW for weekly deep dives into tech’s future! Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/leaders-of-ai/id1776902731 Watch YouTube to catch the video versions: https://www.youtube.com/@leadersofaipodcast Follow Hosts/Guests Julia: https://www.instagram.com/juliaemccoy/ https://www.youtube.com/@JuliaMcCoy Dave: https://x.com/DaveShapi https://www.youtube.com/@DaveShap John Gibbs: https://www.youtube.com/DrKnowitallKnows https://www.instagram.com/drknowitallknows Learn About First Movers www.firstmovers.ai
- Feb 3, 202552 min
E10: The Future of Jobs, Governance, and Humanity | Emad Mostaque
In this episode of Leaders of AI, we sit down with Emad Mostaque. Emad is the Founder & CEO of Intelligent Internet and Founder and Former CEO of Stability AI. Emad shares some chilling predictions about the future of work, revealing how AI will soon surpass human capabilities in nearly every field. He discusses the impending "end of jobs," the rise of AI-powered economies, and the urgent need for societal adaptation. Emad also offers crucial advice for navigating this AI-driven future, emphasizing the importance of embracing AI and developing new skills. Emad’s Article: When Capital No Longer Needs Labor, How Does Labor Gain Capital https://x.com/ii_posts/status/1877018732733612367 Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/leaders-of-ai/id1776902731 Watch YouTube to catch the video versions: https://www.youtube.com/@leadersofaipodcast Follow Hosts/Guests Julia: https://www.instagram.com/juliaemccoy/ https://www.youtube.com/@JuliaMcCoy Dave: https://x.com/DaveShapi https://www.youtube.com/@DaveShap Emad: https://x.com/EMostaque
- Jan 15, 202546 min
E9: How to Use AI to Transform Work and Life | Mark De Grasse
In this episode of Leaders of AI, Julia McCoy and Dave Shapiro welcome Mark De Grasse, former President of DigitalMarketer turned Founder of AI Branding Academy. Dive deep into the world of artificial intelligence and discover how it's liberating creators from mundane tasks, redefining marketing strategies, and empowering businesses to innovate. From personal branding insights to the future of content creation, Mark shares actionable tips and thought-provoking ideas that will change how you approach AI. Leaders of AI with Dave Shapiro and Julia McCoy is now streaming on Apple Podcasts, YouTube, Spotify, Amazon Music & Audible, TuneIn/Alexa, iHeartRadio, Pocket Casts, PlayerFM, and Pandora. Subscribe where you most enjoy listening to podcasts. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/leaders-of-ai/id1776902731 Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2cSEJuGv52Bl4CN8ESLgJb Watch YouTube to catch the video versions: https://www.youtube.com/@LeadersofAIPodcast Follow Guests/Hosts Mark: https://markdegrasse.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/markdegrasse/ Julia: https://www.instagram.com/juliaemccoy/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliaemccoy/ Dave: https://x.com/DaveShapi https://www.linkedin.com/in/daveshap/ Learn About First Movers www.firstmovers.ai
- Jan 4, 202541 min
E8: The AI Revolution is HERE: Why 2025 Will Change Everything (2024 Look-Back & 2025 Highlights)
In this riveting first 2025 episode of Leaders of AI, visionaries Julia McCoy and Dave Shapiro unpack the staggering developments in artificial intelligence, making bold predictions for 2025 and beyond. The conversation dives deep into how OpenAI's O3 breakthrough signals we've entered a new era of AI capabilities - one that's advancing far faster than even industry experts anticipated. They explore how 2025 will be the "Year of the Agent," with autonomous AI systems set to transform every industry, followed by mass robot deployment in 2026 and the dawn of superintelligence by 2027. The hosts share personal insights about how AI is already revolutionizing creative work, with Julia revealing how she used AI to write a viral book in just one hour that outperformed her previous nine books. Dave discusses the profound implications of quantum computing breakthroughs, explaining how they could enable discoveries in materials science that seem like science fiction today. Most importantly, they stress that while these changes may seem overwhelming, the key is to start adapting now rather than waiting for future developments. This episode serves as both a wake-up call and a practical guide for viewers, emphasizing that success in the AI age isn't about replacing human creativity but augmenting it with new tools. The hosts argue that those who embrace AI integration today will be best positioned to thrive in tomorrow's transformed landscape. This conversation captures a pivotal moment in human history, as we stand on the brink of changes that will reshape society more dramatically than any previous technological revolution. Leaders of AI with Dave Shapiro and Julia McCoy is now streaming on Apple Podcasts, YouTube, Spotify, Amazon Music & Audible, TuneIn/Alexa, iHeartRadio, Pocket Casts, PlayerFM, and Pandora. Subscribe where you most enjoy listening to podcasts. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/leaders-of-ai/id1776902731 Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2cSEJuGv52Bl4CN8ESLgJb Watch YouTube to catch the video versions: https://www.youtube.com/@LeadersofAIPodcast
- Dec 31, 202449 min
E7: The Future of AI Agents: Building an Internet for AI with Richard Blythman
In this incredibly deep-dive episode of Leaders of AI, we dive deep with Richard Blythman, founder of Naptha AI, on one of the hottest topics of 2025 – AI agents. Listen in for a mindblowing conversation on the future of AI agents and decentralized artificial intelligence. Richard reveals how his journey from fluid dynamics to AI led him to build what he calls "the Linux of multi-agent systems." Key Highlights: - Why decentralized AI is crucial for the future - How Naptha AI plans to simulate thousands of AI agent internets - The vision of running 1 million agents in a single system by Q1 2025 - Why current blockchain technology isn't ready for agent-to-agent communication - The fascinating potential of agent clones and collective consciousness - Practical first steps for businesses entering the AI agent era Featured Insights: - The problem of data scarcity and why simulating agent interactions could be the solution - How agent-to-agent communication could revolutionize business operations - Why coordination between AI systems is harder than achieving intelligence - The future of human-AI interaction and communication - Practical steps for businesses to prepare for the age of AI agents 💡 For Business Leaders: Learn why recording and organizing your company's knowledge base is crucial for the AI transformation ahead. Discover how AI agents could revolutionize everything from customer service to internal communications. 🔮 Future Predictions: Richard shares his bold prediction that we'll see systems with one billion agents interacting by 2025, potentially leading to a market where AI agents outnumber human users. ✨ About Richard Blythman: Founder of Naptha AI, building the infrastructure for decentralized multi-agent systems. Recently secured $6M in pre-seed funding to revolutionize how AI agents interact and operate. 🔗 Connect with Naptha AI: Website: naptha.ai Leaders of AI with Dave Shapiro and Julia McCoy is now streaming on Apple Podcasts, YouTube, Spotify, Amazon Music & Audible, TuneIn/Alexa, iHeartRadio, Pocket Casts, PlayerFM, and Pandora. Subscribe where you most enjoy listening to podcasts. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/leaders-of-ai/id1776902731 Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2cSEJuGv52Bl4CN8ESLgJb Watch YouTube to catch the video versions: https://www.youtube.com/@LeadersofAIPodcast
- Dec 16, 202452 min
E6: AI & Faith: Bridging Technology, AI, and Spirituality with Jason Moore
In this episode of Leaders of AI, hosts Julia McCoy and Dave Shapiro interview guest Jason Moore, author of "AI and the Church" and pioneering church technology leader, for an enlightening discussion on the intersection of artificial intelligence and spirituality. They explore how faith communities can embrace AI while maintaining authenticity, debunk common fears about technology, and discuss practical applications for religious organizations with limited resources. Moore shares valuable insights from his experience helping hundreds of churches navigate the AI revolution, offering a balanced perspective that acknowledges both the opportunities and potential pitfalls. This conversation bridges the gap between traditional faith practices and cutting-edge technology, providing a framework for thoughtful AI adoption in spiritual contexts. What's inside this episode: Technology and Tradition: How churches and faith communities can leverage AI tools while preserving authentic human connections and spiritual experiences, with practical examples of implementation in resource-constrained environments. Ethical AI Adoption: A thoughtful framework for categorizing AI applications into tasks AI should do, tasks AI can augment, and areas that should remain exclusively human, particularly in spiritual contexts. Liberation Through Technology: An optimistic perspective on how AI can free up religious leaders and communities to focus more on meaningful human interaction and spiritual growth while maintaining the soul of their mission. Leaders of AI with Dave Shapiro and Julia McCoy is now streaming on Apple Podcasts, YouTube, Spotify, Amazon Music & Audible, TuneIn/Alexa, iHeartRadio, Pocket Casts, PlayerFM, and Pandora. Subscribe where you most enjoy listening to podcasts. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/leaders-of-ai/id1776902731 Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2cSEJuGv52Bl4CN8ESLgJb Watch YouTube to catch the video versions: https://www.youtube.com/@LeadersofAIPodcast
- Dec 6, 202440 min
E5: AGI, Automation & Adaptation: A Reality Check with Jonathan Mast
In this episode of Leaders of AI, host Julia McCoy sits down with Jonathan Mast, founder of the 260,000-member Facebook group "AI Prompts for Entrepreneurs," for a deep dive into artificial general intelligence (AGI), automation, and society's adaptation to AI. They cut through the hype around AGI timelines, explore the real possibilities of AI automation in 2025, and discuss why being a "first mover" in AI adoption is critical for businesses. Jonathan shares practical insights on how small and medium businesses can leverage AI to compete with tech giants, why Google has struggled with AI innovation, and what healthy adaptation to AI could look like for society. This conversation offers a balanced, optimistic perspective on AI's future while remaining grounded in current realities and practical applications. What's inside this episode: The First-Mover Advantage in AI: How businesses can gain competitive edge by implementing AI automation now, with practical examples of current capabilities in software development, business operations, and customer service. AGI Timeline Realities: A critical look at artificial general intelligence predictions, definitions, and computational limitations, cutting through the hype from major players like OpenAI and anthropic. Society's Adaptation to AI: An optimistic but grounded perspective on how AI could enhance rather than replace human capabilities, leading to more meaningful work and better work-life balance while acknowledging necessary adjustments along the way. Leaders of AI with Dave Shapiro and Julia McCoy is now streaming on Apple Podcasts, YouTube, Spotify, Amazon Music & Audible, TuneIn/Alexa, iHeartRadio, Pocket Casts, PlayerFM, and Pandora. Subscribe where you most enjoy listening to podcasts. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/leaders-of-ai/id1776902731 Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2cSEJuGv52Bl4CN8ESLgJb Watch YouTube to catch the video versions: https://www.youtube.com/@LeadersofAIPodcast
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About Leaders of AI
Leaders of AI is the go-to AI podcast that delivers real insights for today’s decision makers.About the hosts: Co-host Julia McCoy is an innovative entrepreneur who grew her name to one of the best in the world at content marketing, back when it was done 100% by humans. She sold her 100-person writing agency in 2021 to enter the realm of AI. Today, she lives, breathes and sleeps the science of how to bring businesses and marketing teams into the AI age, personally leading AI integrations for marketing teams at her AI consulting company First Movers. Co-host David Shapiro is one of the most respected voices on the internet regarding AGI and how automation will affect humanity, with a near-20 year background in building custom AI-driven infrastructure implemented by brands like NASA. Semi-retired, he writes, speaks and thinks the future of AI and humanity on Leaders of AI with Julia McCoy and special guests.
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