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by Heath Shearon
Welcome to Insurance Town! Your host is the Mayor of Insurance Town, Heath Shearon. After many years in different parts of the insurance world, Heath wants to share his experience with you. Join in on conversations with Heath and many of the friends he's made along the way.
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- 4 days ago46 min
Can I Scale My Insurance Agency Without Losing My Culture?
This week in Insurance Town, Mayor sits down with longtime friend and fellow insurance leader Heath Barnett, co-owner of Legacy, for a conversation about growth, culture, ownership, and building a business people actually want to be part of.Heath Barnett is an insurance agency leader and co-owner of Legacy. After beginning his career in the captive insurance world, Heath transitioned into the independent channel and helped build Legacy into a multi-state insurance organization.His leadership philosophy centers on developing people, creating opportunities for ownership, giving local leaders autonomy, and building an organization where professional success doesn’t have to come at the expense of family and the things that matter most.Heath’s story starts in Memphis, Texas, where he grew up around agriculture, small-town relationships, and a family Farmers agency. After working alongside his grandfather and eventually purchasing the agency, Heath began seeing opportunities beyond the captive model. That journey ultimately led him into the independent insurance world and to what has become Legacy—an organization that has grown to roughly 250 people across multiple states.But this episode isn’t simply about getting bigger.It’s about how you grow without losing who you are.Heath and Mayor talk about the importance of training agents to understand what they are actually selling instead of competing on price alone. They dig into what the captive world can teach independent agencies about carrier training and development, why Legacy intentionally recruits coaches and teachers, and why the right culture can become one of the strongest recruiting and retention tools an agency has.They also get into ownership, succession planning, producer autonomy, burnout, family priorities, faith, and creating an organization where people have the opportunity to build something of their own.If you’re an agency owner thinking about growth, recruiting, producer development, culture, or succession, there are plenty of nuggets in this one.Episode Timestamps00:00 – Welcome to Insurance Town03:21 – Meet Heath Barnett09:27 – Leaving the captive model for the independent channel10:34 – Rebuilding culture in the independent insurance world15:43 – What Farmers got right about training and support18:26 – Stop selling price and start understanding the product21:54 – Why Legacy recruits coaches and teachers29:19 – Burnout, family priorities, and faith at work32:53 – The original vision for Legacy’s growth36:54 – Why producers choose the Legacy model41:41 – Ownership, succession, and protecting an agent’s book43:42 – Why Legacy moved beyond the traditional last-name agency model44:53 – Connecting with Heath Barnett and Legacy45:45 – Legacy’s growing multi-state footprint46:02 – What could be next for Legacy49:19 – Texas football, Texas Tech, and the Longhorns51:15 – Closing thoughtsLearn more about Legacy at legacyinsurance1.com.Proud Partners of Insurance TownCanopy ConnectStop chasing down declaration pages and PDFs. Canopy Connect helps insurance professionals collect verified insurance information directly from prospects and clients in seconds, creating a faster and easier experience for everyone involved.Bind AIFormerly 1Fort, Bind AI is helping insurance organizations put AI to work as a digital teammate—supporting workflows, increasing capacity, and helping teams spend more time on the work that requires human judgment and relationships.V!VA Virtual SolutionsV!VA helps insurance agencies build effective virtual teams by focusing on more than simply placing a VA. Their approach centers on processes, training, accountability, and helping agencies create measurable return on their investment.Insurance Town listeners can receive $1,000 off when getting started with V!VA Virtual Solutions.Thank you to our partners for supporting Insurance Town and helping us continue bringing real conversations, practical ideas, and stories from people doing the work across the insurance industry.One change I particularly like here is positioning the episode around the question, “How do you grow without losing who you are?” That feels very on-brand for Insurance Town and gives the entire episode a stronger through-line.
- 1 weeks ago1h 4m
How do I grow my agency using Virtual Employees?
in this weeks episode, Heath Shearon sits down with Rob Lopez, CEO of V!VA, for a wide-ranging conversation about insurance, outsourcing, virtual assistants, and AI. Rob shares how his path from broadcast journalism and sports radio led him back into the insurance world, and why his focus has always been on building real departments not just filling seats.They also dig into what makes V!VA different: process-driven onboarding, bilingual support, nearshore staffing in El Salvador, and a consultative approach that helps agencies document workflows before adding talent.https://vivateams.com/insurancetownTimestamps00:00 – Welcome, sponsors, and introducing Rob Lopez from V!VA03:33 – Why Rob stays present in the industry05:32 – Rob’s early life as an Allstate kid06:30 – Broadcast journalism, the Houston Rockets, and a career shift07:26 – The first life insurance claim that changed Rob’s perspective07:55 – Hurricanes Katrina, Rita, and Wilma08:44 – Distribution work, aggregators, and building agency networks09:35 – Why aggregator margins eventually hurt the value proposition10:29 – Rob’s sports talk and media background12:30 – Why catastrophe work mattered more than commissions14:53 – Rob’s father and front-line catastrophe response17:37 – Delivering a claim check and overcoming fear at the kitchen table18:43 – Why showing up during claims builds trust20:40 – Heath and Rob discuss the mission behind insurance22:32 – How Rob entered the virtual assistant space23:43 – Hiring for impact, not headcount24:39 – The story behind V!VA’s first hire27:18 – How that first hire became part of V!VA’s origin story29:13 – The evolution from “VA” to trained insurance team members30:13 – Why checklists and SOPs are essential32:03 – Using virtual assistants to document workflows33:27 – Why Rob is willing to say no to the wrong client fit36:01 – Cheap labor versus true partnership37:26 – Building departments instead of relying on one person41:06 – Why turnover is inevitable without documented processes42:31 – The impact of losing a virtual assistant44:21 – V!VA’s systems and strategy review process45:48 – Quarterly check-ins and role alignment47:12 – Virtual assistants, licensed agents, and career growth49:17 – Why nearshore support can be effective for insurance agencies51:06 – AI versus humans in the agency53:30 – V!VA Front Desk and AI-powered communication55:22 – AI for after-hours lead capture56:48 – Cost savings, payroll, and E&O coverage60:04 – How to contact Rob and access the Insurance Town offer61:26 – The $1,000 setup credit for Insurance Town listenersSponsors: Canopy Connect - get dec pages , gather information , meet your clients where they are Get a discount using my code !! 1fort.ai- it is AI for insurance agencies , save time, be more efficient and win more deals with 1 Fort AIViva - see why more people are going to viva for near shore talent. And get a massive discount for being a listener of the show
- 2 weeks ago47 min
Where do I even start when it comes to AI in my agency?
In this weeks episode the Mayor talks with Dave Rose, an agency operator at Bolt and former Liberty Mutual and Travelers leader, about what independent agents can learn from captive carriers, how connected distribution works, and how agencies can start using AI without overhauling everything. Dave brings a practical, operator’s perspective from both the agency side and the tech side, with a focus on real-world implementation rather than hype.In this episode, they cover the process discipline of captive agencies, the power of referrals and centers of influence in the independent channel, and why AI adoption is more about solving specific pain points than chasing tools. They also preview Dave’s ITC session on building an AI-first agency plan in 30, 60, and 90 days.Timestamps00:00 — Intro, sponsors, and welcome to Dave Rose 08:24 — What Bolt does as a connected distribution platform 10:25 — What Dave learned moving from captive to independent 12:40 — Why independent agency success depends on knowledge, not just choice 15:03 — Centers of influence and building referral pipelines 17:05 — Why branding and marketing matter in the independent channel 19:19 — Why Dave wanted to be both an agency operator and technology builder 20:16 — How Bolt tests technology from the agency side first 23:04 — Why AI vendors all sound similar and what actually matters 24:57 — Advice for technology vendors: think through the agency lens 27:00 — The difference between insurance-first technology and tech-first insurance 28:17 — ITC and the growing role of agents at the conference 29:36 — A real example of an agency owner unsure where to begin with AI 31:18 — Why the industry is still early in its AI journey 34:13 — Three AI myths Dave wants to challenge 36:02 — Why AI should support, not replace, relationship-driven work 38:36 — Dave’s ITC session: practical next steps for agencies 41:26 — Agent Day at ITC and the value-first approach 42:23 — Session title: The AI First Agency: Your 30-, 60-, and 90-Day Plan in 15 Minutes 46:03 — The origins of Bolt and its connected distribution mission 47:28 — How Bolt connects lead generation, quoting, binding, and servicing 49:31 — Who should talk to Bolt and who benefits most 51:29 — How to reach Dave and Bolt 52:40 — Why ITC is worth attending for independent agents 54:58 — Why ITC works because of its concentration of knowledge and conversationSponsors:Canopy Connect1fortVivaIf you have not registered for ITC Vegas. Go check it out and use discount code : 1AGSPKSNB for $200 off
- 3 weeks ago47 min
How do I close more prospects ?
This week in insurance town Heath Shearon sits down with Martin Mashalov, co-founder of Gridpull, to unpack why buying more leads is not the same as getting more business. They dig into how appetite matching, renewal timing, and trigger-based prospecting can help agencies spend producer time more efficiently and improve conversion rates.Martin explains how his background in applied math and insurance analytics led him to build tools for finding better prospects, not just more prospects. The conversation stays practical throughout, with examples from restaurants, commercial real estate, and new business triggers.00:00 - Welcome to the episode and the lead buying problem 05:22 - Why insurance complexity pulled him toward technology 09:55 - Modeling insurer risk and learning the agency and brokerage chain 12:04 - How lead buying became a prospecting problem 14:39 - Why volume alone does not fix lead performance 18:39 - What “appetite” means for agencies and carriers 20:29 - Restaurant examples and carrier appetite edge cases 27:17 - New business triggers as a smarter prospecting strategy 28:21 - Permits, hiring, and licensing as insurance signals 31:38 - Trigger stacking for stronger prospecting profiles 33:20 - Why Gridpull was built around a real workflow problem 34:08 - Where AI fits and where it should stay out of the way 39:30 - How Gridpull organizes renewals, contacts, and follow-up 42:43 - Using existing books of business for cross-sell opportunities 44:10 - Early conversion rate and revenue gains from Gridpool 47:40 - How Gridpull supports agencies beyond just software 48:13 - Contact options and demo availability 49:22 - Free trial, credits, and privacy considerations Sponsors :CANOPY CONNECT1 FortVIVA
- Aug 20, 202651 min
How Can I Maximize My Conference Experience?
This week Drake Lawhead comes to visit us in Insurance Town to talk all things conference , and maximizing the conference experience. We get into what all goes into building a major industry event and how attendees can actually get value from showing up. They also dig into how ITC evolved from an investor-focused conference into a broader experience for agents, brokers, carriers, and the tech vendors serving them.We discuss why in-person networking still matters, how to prepare before a conference, and what makes ITC’s agent and broker programming different from a typical trade show. 00:00 - Welcome to Insurance Town and sponsor shoutouts 08:25 - What conference planning really looks like behind the scenes 09:36 - How conference teams handle complaints and reduce friction 11:42 - How attendees should prepare before a conference starts 13:25 - Why some people should attend with a plan and others should leave room for serendipity 15:46 - Why staying present beats taking conference-day Zoom calls 18:48 - Why in-person networking still beats digital connection 19:49 - How ITC’s app and meeting system help people connect fast 28:35 - Why insurance is a natural fit for technology and AI 31:09 - What ITC Agents attendees can expect from Tuesday through Thursday 33:43 - Expo hall, main stage, happy hours, and the closing concert 38:05 - Why ITC was built for introverts too 39:43 - Quiet zones, lounges, puppy park, and low-pressure networking 42:31 - How ITC borrows ideas from other conferences 45:01 - Why intentional networking matters more than just putting people in a room 46:45 - Why Drake enjoys the independent agency world 47:58 - Dates, location, and how to register 48:59 - ITC events around the world 50:49 - Final push to register and use the app 51:47 - Closing thanks and signoff Thank you to my Sponsors: Canopy Connect 1fort Viva Virtual Solutions
- Aug 13, 202653 min
Should I give my clients my personal cell number ?
In this weeks Episode, I got the chance to talk to my brother, my homie, my main man, Casey Nelson of Agency X and Eclipse Insurance. We talked about a major career shift, returning to the agency side with Eclipse Insurance, and why that move is giving him a new lens on what works and what doesnt inside an agency. They also dig into Agency X, Casey and Jessica Holder’s upcoming behind the scenes podcast about fixing real agency problems in real time. Think, Reality TV meets VLog, meets Podcast, and all rolled into some entertaining and Educational Content built for insurance agencies. A big part of the conversation centers on the tension between old school workflows, modern automation, and AI, plus how agencies can adopt technology without creating chaos. Let me be real , this one gets SPICY, QUICK!! Timestamps00:00 - Welcome to Insurance Town and sponsor rundown 02:25 - Casey joins the conversation and catches up with Heath 08:51 - Why agency owner alignment on process is non negotiable 09:46 - Paper workflows, printed emails, and missing documentation 14:07 - Why no insurance tech is truly ready out of the box 15:04 - Preparing clients for AI driven service changes 20:28 - Front door theory and getting everything into the ecosystem 22:24 - Why agents should stop using personal cell phones for business 24:14 - Relationship business vs order taker mentality 27:10 - The value of honest staff feedback on workflows 31:17 - How AI adoption has changed since the Zapier era 32:26 - Why agencies that resist tech risk falling behind 37:46 - AI fatigue and why younger generations may push back 39:21 - Why agencies should map pain points before buying AI tools 40:22 - Change one variable at a time and keep a baseline 41:38 - What is agency X 47:40 - Casey’s ITC speaking opportunity 49:10 - What Casey will talk about at ITC 50:42 - Why the agent and vendor halls at ITC are worth the trip 51:38 - ITC promo code details and closing thoughts 52:32 - Final thanks, future guest host plans, and signoffSponsors:Canopy Connect 1Fort AIViva Virtual Solutions
- Aug 6, 202641 min
Can Voice AI Transform the Insurance Customer Experience?
This week in Insurance Town, I got to sit down with Francisco Lopes of Sonant.AI for a conversation about one of the fastest-growing technologies in the insurance industry: voice AI.Artificial intelligence has become one of the biggest topics in our business, but with all the excitement comes plenty of skepticism. Francisco and I discussed where voice AI has come from, why today's technology is dramatically different than the automated phone systems of the past, and how agencies can begin using AI in ways that improve both customer experience and operational efficiency.We also talked about the concerns many agency owners and employees have about AI replacing jobs. Francisco shared why he believes AI is best used to support people, not replace them, allowing agency teams to spend more time building relationships and solving complex client needs while automation handles routine conversations.Whether you're just beginning to explore AI or you're looking for practical ways to implement it in your agency, this episode offers valuable insights into where the technology is headed and what independent agencies should be doing today to prepare for tomorrow.Chapters00:00 Introduction and episode overview02:23 Francisco's background and journey from astrophysics to AI08:01 Moving to Silicon Valley and the lessons learned building AI technology12:00 How Sonant.AI found its niche serving independent insurance agencies14:46 Overcoming skepticism about voice AI and changing perceptions in insurance17:47 Why creating a great customer experience matters more than achieving technical perfection21:56 Addressing concerns about AI replacing jobs and why AI should empower agency teams28:50 The future of AI in insurance, agentic AI, and where agencies should begin36:01 Practical advice for insurance agencies looking to implement AI today38:00 How to connect with Francisco and learn more about Sonant.AISponsors:Canopy Connect-1Fort AIViva Virtual Solutions
- Jul 30, 202638 min
The Future of AI in Insurance with Christina Lucas {LIVE}
There are some interviews you enjoy... and then there are conversations you genuinely don't want to end. This was one of those.Recorded live from the iconic Santa Monica Pier during InsuranceFest 2026, I had the opportunity to sit down with Christina Lucas of Google Cloud, and what a fantastic conversation it turned out to be.While many people know Christina for her work at Google Cloud, what really stood out was her incredible journey. From leading teams across the United States to living and working around the world, her experiences have shaped a unique perspective on leadership, innovation, and the future of our industry. She shared lessons learned from different cultures, different organizations, and different stages of her career—and in doing so, taught all of us something valuable.Of course, we couldn't sit down with Christina without talking about artificial intelligence. We explored how Google Cloud is helping transform the insurance industry, why trust and security remain at the center of innovation, and how organizations can embrace AI in practical, meaningful ways. Rather than focusing on the hype, Christina brings a thoughtful perspective on how technology can empower people and create better outcomes across the insurance ecosystem.We also discussed her newly co-authored book, Artificial Intelligence in the Insurance Industry, where she shares practical insights into how AI is already reshaping underwriting, brokerage, customer experience, operations, and leadership. Whether you're just beginning your AI journey or looking to take the next step, her perspective is one every insurance professional should hear.This episode is packed with leadership lessons, technology insights, and plenty of laughs along the way. I had an absolute blast recording this one, and I think you're going to enjoy every minute of it.A huge thank you to Christina for taking the time to join us and for sharing her wisdom with the Insurance Town community.A special thank you to our amazing sponsors for making Insurance Town possible:🏙️ Canopy Connect – The easiest way to collect verified insurance information from your clients in minutes.🏙️ 1Fort – Helping insurance agencies leverage AI to streamline submissions, improve workflows, and create more time to serve clients.🏙️ VIVA Virtual Solutions – Providing highly trained virtual professionals who help agencies scale efficiently while delivering exceptional service.
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