
Biology may be the most important technology we take off planet, and Mario Maggio is building the hardware to prove it. The founder and CEO of Ambrosia Space joins Erum Azeez Khan and Karl Schmieder to explain why space bioprocessing has been stuck at 10 to 20 milliliters while bench scientists on Earth work at 250 milliliters and beyond, and what changes when a two and a half liter fed batch bioreactor with pH, dissolved oxygen, and total cell density sensors finally flies. Mario traces his path from aerospace propulsion and the Nova C lunar lander at Intuitive Machines to life support systems at Paragon and Axiom Space, and the realization that biology is the best CO2 scrubber, oxygen source, and chemical factory available for long duration missions where petroleum, farms, and easy resupply do not exist. The conversation digs into the engineering reality of fluids and gas in microgravity, why glass and ceramics never fly, the stainless steel and aluminum builds that replace them, the intentional and unintentional bacteria that come with building a bioreactor from scratch, and the NASA TechLeap winning CellSep continuous flow centrifuge that carries cells and secreted products into downstream processing without gravity. Mario also lays out the near term commercial case, from protein crystallization and monoclonal antibodies that behave differently in orbit to biofuels, vitamin production, medicines, and the big silver tanks that will feed astronauts because there will be no farms or cattle. He offers a candid read on artificial gravity gradients, why the Moon matters for building large vehicles in space, and why the same hardware that grows yeast for beer on Mars becomes the root of better biomanufacturing on Earth. Erum and Karl open with field notes from Bio Innovations North America in Omaha, including Midwest feedstock advantage, consortia momentum, the 30 percent of cost hiding in downstream processing, and why Smucker and Mars are actively scouting biotech innovators.Grow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and speak with the leaders and innovators using biology to change the world. Biology is the world’s oldest technology, and it can be engineered. So, what are we growing?Learn more at www.messaginglab.com/groweverythingChapters:(00:00:00) Why Biology Is the Best Commercial Case for Space(00:04:52) Bio Innovations North America and the Midwest Bioeconomy(00:07:21) Why Smucker and Mars Are Scouting Biotech Innovators(00:11:42) Inside Ambrosia Space: Bioreactors Built for Orbit(00:15:24) Scaling Past 150 Milliliters: Space Biology's Volume Problem(00:18:12) Stainless Steel, Leaks, and Why Glass Never Flies(00:21:36) NASA TechLeap and the CellSep Continuous Flow Centrifuge(00:26:08) Protein Crystals and Monoclonal Antibodies Made in Microgravity(00:31:22) Artificial Gravity, Lunar Bases, and Closing the Loop on Life Support(00:36:12) Quick Fire: Space Food Reality, HAL, and Biologics in OrbitLinks and Resources:Mario MaggioAmbrosia Space LinkedInAmbrosia Space111. Space Genes and Subway Scenes: Chris Mason on Planning Life’s Next Big Leap93. Houston, We Have a Protocol: NASA's Kate Rubins on Biotech in Space187. One Small Step for a Microbe: Lynn Rothschild’s Leap from Astrobiology to Bioengineering at NASA185. Brick Happens: Chris Maurer of Redhouse Studio Redesigns Remote Living for Earth and Mars152. Crystals in the Cosmos: Varda Rewrites Drug Formulation in MicrogravityGrow E
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