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Is it possible to bring Republicans and Democrats together? Maybe. Rob Ellsworth and Matt Parker grew up in the upper Ohio Valley playing junior golf, and today they all work in politics. Rob is a Democratic lobbyist, and Matt is a Republican strategist. While they rarely see eye-to-eye on politics, they wholeheartedly agree that golf is the greatest game ever invented and are passionate about expanding it.
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On this episode of Golf & Politics, Matt and Rob sit down for a candid conversation about the Oklahoma governor’s race, the Republican Party, President Trump, and where American politics goes from here. Matt reflects on the incredibly close Oklahoma governor’s race and the experience of spending 20 months working on the Gentner Drummond campaign. The conversation then expands to Trump’s influence over the Republican Party, the challenges facing Republicans heading into the midterms, and whether the party has delivered on the promises that helped bring Trump back to the White House. Matt and Rob also discuss political polarization, immigration, foreign policy, tariffs, the role of social media in politics, and the need for politicians to disagree without treating each other as enemies. At the end of the day, the conversation comes back to something both Matt and Rob agree on: politics can be competitive without losing sight of the country and the people it is supposed to serve. And, of course, there’s golf. The episode closes with a look ahead to the next G&P Cup at RTJ. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
With Oklahoma’s Republican primary runoff just days away, Golf & Politics sits down with four candidates competing for statewide office. Gentner Drummond joins us in the final stretch of the governor’s race to talk about his military service, ranching background, political independence, integrity, and why he says he wants to be a statesman rather than a politician. Bob Sullivan discusses the Oklahoma insurance market, why he believes Oklahomans are paying too much for property and casualty insurance, and his decision not to accept money from insurance companies or insurance PACs. John Pfeiffer breaks down what the Labor Commissioner actually does, Oklahoma’s workforce challenges, and his proposal to bring the state’s Workforce Commission under the Labor Department. And Robert Franklin explains why he believes his decades in Oklahoma public education make him the right choice for State Superintendent. The Republican primary runoff is August 25. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Louis Jackson joins Golf & Politics for another round of Nine Holes, Nine Questions at the Landrunner Golf Classic. Jackson, a longtime friend of the program and a candidate for the Oklahoma State House, talks about his lifelong interest in politics, growing up in Lawton, why he decided to run for office in 2026, and what it takes to actually build a campaign from the ground up. Along the way, we get into knocking 1,200 doors, raising $60,000 in his first two weeks, the importance of golf as a place to build relationships, what most voters don't understand about campaigns, working in politics, and why Jackson considers Richard Nixon one of the most underrated presidents in American history. Plus: plenty of golf, a dream foursome, and a few lessons learned on the course. Learn more about Louis Jackson: votelouisjackson.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Bryson DeChambeau's controversial two-stroke penalty stole the headlines at The Open, but it was far from the only story coming out of Royal Birkdale. This week, Matt Parker and Rob Ellsworth break down why the course produced both record-low rounds and a winning score of just 10-under. Rob also shares his firsthand perspective from playing Royal Birkdale and every Open rota course in Europe. They also discuss: Whether Bryson deserved the penalty Why Rory vs. Bryson is becoming golf's biggest rivalry What makes links golf so different from American golf How social media has changed both golf and politics Do you think the R&A got the Bryson ruling right? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Halfway through 2026, we're back with one of our favorite episodes of the year. Matt Parker and Rob Ellsworth break down the five best new golf courses they've played so far this year—from legendary championship venues to hidden gems and some of the most exclusive clubs in the country. But we don't stop there. We also reveal the most overrated golf courses we've played in 2026, discuss what separates great golf architecture from great conditioning, and explain why some of golf's biggest names don't always get it right. Then we shift to politics, sharing the biggest political events that have personally impacted each of us this year—from Capitol Hill to Oklahoma's governor's race—and offer a behind-the-scenes look at how campaigns, endorsements, and lobbying really work. In this episode: ⛳ Our Top 5 New Golf Courses of 2026 🏌️ The most overrated courses we've played 🏛️ Behind-the-scenes political stories you won't hear elsewhere 🎯 Golf architecture, strategy, and course design 👀 Honest opinions, hot takes, and plenty of debate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What does it take to build one of the most talked-about new golf clubs in America? In this episode of Golf & Politics, we sit down with Rod Trump, founder and chairman of High Pointe Golf Club, to discuss the remarkable journey from caddie to successful entrepreneur—and ultimately to restoring and reimagining Tom Doak's first golf course. Rod shares how golf shaped his career, the lessons he learned building and selling businesses, and why creating a truly great golf club is about much more than designing a great golf course. We dive into the vision behind High Pointe, working alongside legendary golf architect Tom Doak, the importance of culture and membership, and what separates the world's greatest clubs from the rest. ⸻ In this episode: Rod Trump's journey from caddie to entrepreneur Why golf became the foundation of his business success Restoring Tom Doak's first golf course The vision behind High Pointe Golf Club Golf course architecture and the new Golden Age of design Building club culture that lasts for generations If you enjoy conversations about golf architecture, legendary golf clubs, course design, entrepreneurship, and the people shaping the future of the game, follow us on social media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this episode of Golf & Politics, we dive deep into one of the most important—and overlooked—stories in the game today. We sit down with Will Smith, co-founder of the National Links Trust, to explore the intersection of golf, history, and power in Washington, DC. From restoring historic municipal courses to preserving access for everyday golfers, this conversation goes far beyond fairways and greens. We cover: The mission to keep golf affordable and accessible The untold civil rights history of DC’s municipal courses How golf became a rare space where politics doesn’t matter The rise of the Outpost Club and modern golf culture The growing tension between public golf and elite development What happens when politics enters the game This episode isn’t just about golf—it’s about community, opportunity, and who the game is really for. If you care about the future of golf, you need to hear this. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this episode of Golf & Politics, Matt and Rob sit down with Sean O’Brien — former congressional chief of staff, Obama campaign operative, Pentagon speechwriter, and former speechwriter for Joe Biden. Sean shares what it was really like working in Rahm Emanuel’s office during the 2006 wave, running a rebellious Blue Dog-style congressional operation, writing speeches aboard Air Force Two, and serving at the Pentagon under both Democratic and Republican administrations. The conversation digs into: Whether 2026 is shaping up to be a wave year The strength (and limits) of Donald Trump’s influence in GOP primaries Candidate quality vs. national mood in midterms Redistricting, the Latino vote, and the hidden battlegrounds Early 2028 Democratic possibilities, including Mark Kelly and Mitch Landrieu It’s candid, and it’s a rare behind-the-scenes look at how campaigns and power actually work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Is it possible to bring Republicans and Democrats together? Maybe. Rob Ellsworth and Matt Parker grew up in the upper Ohio Valley playing junior golf, and today they all work in politics. Rob is a Democratic lobbyist, and Matt is a Republican strategist. While they rarely see eye-to-eye on politics, they wholeheartedly agree that golf is the greatest game ever invented and are passionate about expanding it.
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