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'From Pain Point to On Point: Transforming Sales Challenges into Wins with Gamification' is the podcast where we dive deep into the common challenges sales managers face and explore innovative gamification solutions to overcome them. Hosted by SalesScreen’s Go-to-Market Director Brittney, every two weeks, we'll bring you expert insights, real-world stories, and actionable tips to help you turn your sales pain points into on-point victories.
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How do you scale an outbound team from two founders dialing cell phones to 20 BDRs, without losing the hustle that got you there? In this episode, Britt sits down with Jimmy Christiansen, Head of Sales at Adversus, to unpack what actually breaks when outbound teams grow: why BDRs are "playmakers," not grunt work, where AI SDRs genuinely fit (and where they don't), and why a rep's activity metrics are really their GPS. Packed with honest, hard-won advice for anyone building a BDR or SDR team.Best moments:Why the BDR is the hardest role to replace, not the easiest, and why Adversus calls them "playmakers"The honest case on AI SDRs: where they genuinely fit, and why Jimmy thinks they're generations away from replacing outbound repsWhy 3 out of 10 leads being relevant is a good day, and why that's healthyThe "Formula One car vs. a bicycle" test for your calling setupWhy activity KPIs are a rep's GPS, and how one bad month kills motivation if you only measure in 30-day windowsWhy being a great BDR doesn't make someone a great AEThe "mandatory dialing day" story, a Head of Sales who hadn't cold-called in three years, back on the phonesWhy gamification, streaks, and recognition aren't "just games," they're psychology
Sales have always rewarded the people who do the hard work. The problem? For the last five years, the "hard work" has been clicking buttons, running sequences, and updating a CRM that nobody loves. AI didn't just change that; it exposed it.Sindre, SalesScreen's CEO, sits down with JB, founder of Evergrowth and a 20-year B2B sales veteran who helped scale Trustpilot from 50 to 5,000 customers as one of their first four sales hires. Today, JB builds AI agents for sales teams and has strong opinions about where the profession is headed.They cover:Why the phone is the new blue ocean in outbound salesWhy inbound sales for humans is effectively over (agentic buyers are coming)What "agentic sales" actually means and why a Claude license isn't itThe one AI agent JB would keep if he could only keep oneHow to run a morning coffee briefing that replaces three hours of manual prepWhy AI hasn't changed the fundamentals, it's just removed your excusesIf your team has been "getting ready to do AI" for the last two years, this one's for you.About JB: Founder of Evergrowth, a customer-centric sales consultancy turned AI-native sales agent platform. Based in Europe. Former early-stage salesperson at Trustpilot.
What does it actually look like when AI works with your sales team instead of against them? In this episode, Britt sits down with Royce Mason, a California native turned Oslo resident and sales enablement expert at Umbrella, to dig into one of the most pressing questions in modern sales: how do you integrate AI in a way that your team will actually use?Royce brings a refreshingly grounded perspective to AI adoption, one that starts not with technology, but with people. Drawing on his background in finance, leasing, and enterprise sales, he walks us through how AI is reshaping the way reps train, prospect, and show up for their customers, and why forcing it from the top down is almost always the fastest way to kill adoption.In this episode, we cover:Why AI adoption breaks down at every level of an organization, and how to fix itThe power of AI-driven role play in reducing sales anxiety and building rep confidenceHow one sales team improved their close ratio by 30%, increased deal size by 40%, and flipped their talk-to-listen ratio from 60/40 to 20/80What a "future-ready" sales team actually looks like on a normal Tuesday afternoonWhy the best salespeople use AI to find 15 sure-thing prospects instead of dialing 1,000 long shotsThe Iron Man analogy that perfectly captures the human + AI relationship in salesWhy sales will always be a trust-based, human-centered profession, no matter how advanced AI getsAbout Royce Mason: Royce Mason is a sales enablement and growth expert currently based in Oslo, Norway. Originally from Woodland Hills, California, Royce has built his career across finance, leasing, and tech sales before finding his passion at the intersection of people, process, and AI. He now works at Umbrella, helping organizations build future-ready sales teams that use AI not as a replacement for human connection, but as a tool to deepen it.
Stuck in weekly “postmortems” that explain what went wrong but don’t change what happens next? In this episode, Britt shows how to move from reactive leadership to proactive coaching by leading with signals*, not just outcomes. We unpack why teams slip into a “weekly postmortem” loop and how to break it. 👉🏼 The trap: spending more time “explaining performance than actually influencing” it. 👉🏼 Outcomes vs. behaviors: outcomes tell “how the story ends”; leaders need a “play by play.” 👉🏼 Why signals create direction: build conversations “around signals,” so reps know where to focus now. 👉🏼 A simple shift for your next 1:1: instead of “what happened?” ask “what’s happening?” TakeawayIf your meetings start with results, you’re leading from the past; switch to early indicators you can still shape.*SalesScreen can automate these signals with built‑in AI, but the mindset works with any stack.Best Moments Topic intro: seeing signals too late and reactive management. Numbers-first meetings = leadership after the fact; the “weekly postmortem.” Symptom check: “explaining performance rather than actually influencing.” Shift to signals: direction, not explanations. Outcomes vs behaviors: “where you landed” vs “where you’re going.” Try this: start meetings with “what’s happening?”
Most sales leaders are under immense pressure to boost team productivity faster than ever, and AI is both the challenge and the solution. Espen Sjaavik, co-founder of Alfred, reveals the counterintuitive strategies that transform sales teams from overworked to unstoppable, emphasizing process, shared language, and human connection despite the hype around automation. If you're tired of the chaos and want to build scalable, predictable sales machines, this episode is your blueprint for the future of high-performance selling.Discover how top teams leverage a common language to align goals and reduce subjectivity across sales, marketing, and product, creating clarity and faster onboarding. Espen breaks down the critical habits, frameworks, and habits that enable predictable growth, even in times of market downturns and AI-driven disruption. You’ll learn how to diagnose whether your sales challenges stem from process flaws or motivation gaps, and how to foster genuine curiosity and conviction within your reps for sustainable success.We unpack actionable tactics like implementing universal qualification standards, focusing on top-of-funnel metrics, and obsessing over execution quality early in the sales cycle. Espen shares how a process-first approach, built with fundamentals in mind, can scale seamlessly, proving that hiring smart isn’t enough without the right structure. He challenges sales leaders to unlearn reliance on star athletes and instead invest in fundamentals that drive repeatability and growth, no matter who joins the team.Perfect for sales leaders, founders, and teams navigating AI’s landscape, this episode will shift your mindset from chaotic firefighting to strategic mastery. Learn how to harness automation without losing the human touch, all while building a predictable revenue engine that can scale from startup to enterprise. If you're ready to lead with conviction, precision, and clarity, this episode will redefine your approach to sales success.Best Moments: AI shifts the sales landscape, but human connection remains essential for trust and authenticity Leaders must diagnose the real root of productivity breakdowns, process, quality, or motivation, to intervene effectively The foundation of scalable sales success is a shared, operational language Focus on process fundamentals and repeatable behaviors instead of heroism Scalability is rooted in process and enablement, not just star talent Effective coaching begins with understanding individual belief and operational alignment High productivity stems from an obsession with early-stage process quality over top-line resultsGuest Bio:Espen Sjaavik is a sales expert and co-founder of Alfred, a platform democratizing elite sales habits. With experience scaling teams from startups to hundreds of reps at Zscaler and Gartner, Espen’s insights are rooted in real-world operational excellence.
Most sales strategies today focus on pressure and persuasion, but what if true success comes from something much deeper? Placing genuine care at the heart of every deal? Ole-Arvid Liodden, a Norway-based sales coach with over 26 years of experience, reveals how shifting from ego-driven tactics to an authentic 'love-in-action' approach transforms sales into a service-oriented art.Discover why real sales are about empathy, deep curiosity, and physical energy, not scripts or manipulations, and learn how to craft trusting relationships that last.In this electrifying conversation, Ole-Arvid breaks down the common pitfalls that trap salespeople in scarcity and fear of rejection. He shares practical techniques: the power of simple breathing exercises to reconnect with your purpose; how to ask the right questions to truly understand your client’s needs; and why shifting your mindset from 'selling' to 'serving' leads to more authentic, high-ticket wins. You'll discover the importance of pacing your offers, hint: never send an offer without a dedicated walkthrough, and how to use curiosity, not pressure, to nurture long-term client relationships.We explore the flawed reliance on classic frameworks like MEDDPPIC and SPICED, emphasizing the necessity of understanding the client’s emotional landscape before jumping into solutions instead. Ole-Arvid highlights that success hinges on owning your value internally, when you genuinely believe in what you're offering, rejection becomes less frightening, and inspired action becomes effortless. Plus, get insights on how AI can enhance your authentic interactions by helping you remember what truly matters, your client’s real desires and pain points.Whether you're a sales leader, an aspiring sales pro, or just tired of the transactional grind, this episode is your wake-up call to humanize your approach. Ready to ditch the ego, embrace curiosity, and turn sales into a heartfelt service? Perfect for those committed to sustainable success in a rapidly changing, AI-driven world. Tune in and discover how love, energy, and true curiosity can skyrocket your results and your impact.Best Moments: Introducing, Ole-Arvid Liodden The Philosophy of Real Sales Mindset and Energy in Sales Balancing Ego and Service Curiosity and Discovery in Sales Inviting Possibilities, Not Just Booking Meetings Handling Pre-Qualified Clients The Importance of Patience and Presentation Using AI to Enhance Sales Interactions Frameworks and Sales Processes Overcoming Fear and Implementing ChangeGuest Bio:Ole-Arvid Liodden is a seasoned sales coach and consultant with over 26 years of experience in the sales industry. Based in Norway, Ole-Arvid is renowned for his transformative approach to sales, which he describes as "love in action." He believes that true sales success comes from genuine care and service, rather than traditional product-pushing tactics.Ole-Arvid's journey in sales began at a young age, selling flowers door-to-door, and has since evolved into a career dedicated to training and empowering sales professionals across the Nordic region. He has held various sales positions, including roles in software sales and Oracle Applications consulting, before founding his own company over a decade ago.His philosophy centers on the idea that sales is about understanding and serving clients' real needs, fostering authentic connections, and approaching each interaction with curiosity and empathy. Ole-Arvid emphasizes the importance of mindset and energy in sales, advocating practices such as deep breathing and reflection to align one's energy with their intent.Through his workshops and coaching sessions, Ole-Arvid inspires sales leaders and teams to shift from ego-driven approaches to a more human-centered, service-oriented mindset. His insights have helped countless sales professionals achieve sustainable success by focusing on genuine human connection and care.
In this episode, Britt discusses the unique challenges and opportunities of the holiday season in the workplace. We explore how December differs from other months, emphasizing the importance of maintaining momentum without causing burnout. Britt highlights the significance of cognitive load, customer response, and emotional energy during this time. Let's aim for a balanced approach to motivation, focusing on visibility, recognition, and belonging. The episode also explores the benefits of gamification and multi-round competitions for keeping sales teams engaged and productive.Best Moments: December Challenges Cognitive Load and Customer Response Emotional Energy and Motivation The Role of Gamification Multi-Round Competitions Reflecting on Progress and Closing the Year
In this episode, Britt discusses the importance of having a clear performance strategy for sales teams, rather than relying solely on data. She explains the pitfalls of data overload and how it can lead to confusion rather than clarity. We outline a five-step process to build a performance strategy that focuses on actionable behaviors and leading indicators, rather than just metrics. The episode emphasizes the need for proactive coaching and the benefits of measuring less but with more value.Best Moments: Introduction to Strategy vs. Data The Problem with Data Overload Building a Performance Strategy The Importance of Proactive Coaching Five Steps to Success Conclusion and Key Takeaways
'From Pain Point to On Point: Transforming Sales Challenges into Wins with Gamification' is the podcast where we dive deep into the common challenges sales managers face and explore innovative gamification solutions to overcome them. Hosted by SalesScreen’s Go-to-Market Director Brittney, every two weeks, we'll bring you expert insights, real-world stories, and actionable tips to help you turn your sales pain points into on-point victories.
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