Food with Mark Bittman

Mara Fleishman on MAHA, Michelle Obama, and Why Everyone Suddenly Agrees on School Food

September 2, 2026·43 min
Episode Description from the Publisher

Mara Fleishman is the co-founder and CEO of the Chef Ann Foundation, which has reached more than 19,000 schools, 35,000 school food professionals, and nearly 6 million students in its work to replace ultra-processed food with fresh, scratch-cooked meals. Before that, she spent a decade at Whole Foods as their global director of partnerships. We talk about what school food actually looks like now versus what it looked like a generation ago, why the biggest barrier to change is not budget but workforce, and how Chef Ann Foundation is building purchasing cooperatives that connect small districts directly to local farms. Mark also has some thoughts on MAHA.Here's what Mark and Kate mentioned in today's podcast:Look What You Made Me Do, by John Lanchester: https://bookshop.org/a/18956/9781324131342Whistler, by Ann Patchett: https://bookshop.org/a/18956/9780063511637Subscribe to Food with Mark Bittman on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you like to listen, and please help us grow by leaving us a 5 star review on Apple Podcasts.Follow Mark on Twitter at @bittman, and on Facebook and Instagram at @markbittman. Want more food content? Subscribe to The Bittman Project at www.bittmanproject.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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