
Nikolas and Michael turn the lens on themselves and the podcast itself: the quiet fear of saying the wrong thing, where self-censorship comes from, and what honest conversation actually costs. They trace their path from software engineering into psychology, move through charged territory like COVID and polarization, and get into the strange discomfort of hearing your own voice. Nikolas introduces the "true mirror," and they land on podcasting as a kind of shadow work and a practice in staying present.00:00 Intro00:45 The discomfort of putting yourself out there04:29 From software engineering to psychology08:14 Self-censorship and the fear of saying the wrong thing09:56 Being apolitical, and the social cost of speaking11:55 COVID as a charged entry point16:07 Platforms, news, and whose interests18:10 Relaxing the self-censorship20:35 Intention and the casual, unscripted format23:44 Hearing your own voice: the cringe26:39 The "true mirror": seeing yourself unflipped29:23 Self-observation and self-acceptance31:55 Podcasting as working on yourself37:21 Staying present and becoming a good conversationalist43:19 Why this should be taught, and the joy in it45:00 Wrap-up
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