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- 2 days ago1h 7m
The Economy by Decade: The 2000s and The Great Recession
The 2000s were so important, we needed a Part 2 to tackle the Great Recession. We unpack how easy credit, soaring housing prices, risky lending, and the financial system combined to create the biggest economic crisis since the Great Depression. Along the way, we debate whether the government bailouts were the right call and talk about the long-term effects that still shape housing, lending, higher education, and personal finance today.In this episode, we talk about:* What caused the Great Recession and why there wasn’t one single culprit* The housing bubble, subprime mortgages, and why banks kept lending* Whether TARP and the bank bailouts were unpopular necessities or policy mistakes* How the recession permanently changed lending, mortgages, and borrowing* Why the effects of 2008 still show up today through demographics, higher education, and attitudes toward debtCheck out the first part of this conversation when we unpacked the rest of the 2000s:This Week’s Drinks 🍻We may be recording on the same day, but that doesn’t mean the drinks need to stay the same. Brian stuck with his cocktail tour of the decade by switching from a mojito to a Cosmopolitan. In contrast, Jadrian switched from his Pickle PBR to something a little more local: Richmond Lager from Hardywood Brewery. Matt stuck with his Summer Shred Hazy IPA from Ever Grain Brewing.Name That Stat 📊We stuck with the 2000s themes for our stats this week with data on the amount of value that was destroyed when Enron collapsed, the number of votes that decided the 2000 presidential election in Florida, and the number of banks that failed during 2008. The stats for this week’s episode help frame just how unusual the decade really was.Show NotesThe aughts were such an important decade that we had to tackle it in two parts. We previously looked at the economy right before it arrived at the edge of the cliff. This episode is about what happened after it went over. The Great Recession reshaped the economy for a long time: unemployment stayed elevated for years, the financial system nearly collapsed, and the recovery became a defining economic experience for an entire generation. If you haven’t listened to Part 1 yet, that’s the perfect place to start before jumping into this episode.We started our conversation by trying to figure out what actually caused the crisis. There’s no single bad decision. Instead, there were several forces that reinforced one another: historically low interest rates, rapidly rising home prices, increasingly risky mortgages, political pressure to expand homeownership, banks making loans they should have questioned more carefully, and the widespread belief that housing prices simply wouldn’t fall. With all of that we eventually saw falling home values, mortgage defaults, and failing financial institutions. But with all that happening, we can’t ignore the government’s response. One question we kept coming back to was whether programs like TARP were bad policy or simply the least bad option available. On one hand, bailing out banks that made poor decisions created a clear moral hazard problem and left many people wondering why financial institutions received help while ordinary homeowners struggled. On the other hand, the government could have allowed the financial system to collapse. With the benefit of hindsight, TARP may have been one of the most effective emergency economic policies despite being so unpopular at the time. We finished by thinking less about what happened in 2008 and more about the repercussions we are seeing today. Buying a home today involves far more documentation and scrutiny than it once did, reflecting the lessons lenders learned after the crash. The recession also caused <a target="_blank" href="https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2010/04/06/us-birth-rate-decline-li
- 2 weeks ago1h 2m
The Economy by Decade: The 2000s (Part 1)
The 2000s began with a strong economy, low unemployment, growing globalization, and plenty of optimism left over from the 1990s. Then came the dot-com crash, 9/11, China’s entry into the World Trade Organization, major manufacturing job losses, and a sharp increase in federal debt. We look at how those events reshaped markets, jobs, government spending, and household finances. We decided to stop just before the Great Recession, which is big enough to get an episode of its own.In this episode, we talk about:* What the 2000s inherited from the booming economy of the late 1990s* The economic fallout from 9/11 and the wars that followed* China’s WTO entry, globalization, and the decline of manufacturing employment* How interest rates, household debt, and easy borrowing set the stage for what came nextIf you liked this conversation, you might also enjoyThis Week’s Drinks 🍻Jadrian finally got the chance to bring out his Pabst Blue Ribbon mixed with Grillo’s pickle juice, timed nicely with the approach of Picklesburgh. Matt went with a Summer Shred Hazy IPA from Ever Grain Brewing Company, which has no connection to the 2000s but was apparently overdue for an appearance. Brian leaned into the decade with a mojito, inspired by the super-sweet, fruit-heavy cocktails that were everywhere in the 2000s. Name That Stat 📊This week's numbers covered several different corners of the 2000s economy. We looked at the explosive growth of the World Series of Poker's Main Event, the dramatic collapse of the NASDAQ after the dot-com bubble burst, and the millions of manufacturing jobs lost during the decade. Along the way, we also explored how unemployment, federal debt, and financial markets changed over one of the most turbulent economic periods in recent history.Show NotesWe have a packed episode, but thankfully we have Brian O’Roark back to help us make sense of the 2000s. It was a decade packed with an incredible amount of economic history, but we start by asking what the decade inherited from the 1990s. The answer was a lot of economic optimism, despite initial fears of bank failures, grounded airplanes, and collapsing computer systems thanks to the Y2K scare.Unemployment was at levels that once seemed unusually low, the federal government had recently run budget surpluses, globalization was accelerating, and the stock market had spent years climbing. Europe was moving toward physical euro notes, China was approaching entry into the World Trade Organization, and economists had plenty of reasons to believe freer trade and deeper international connections would create broad gains. That optimism did not last long. The dot-com bubble burst, and the ensuing Nasdaq crash forced some people to remain in the workforce much longer than expected. The broader stock market offered very little progress for anyone who invested in the beginning and was hoping to cash out at the end. This is part of the reason the decade is sometimes described as a lost decade for investors and households. Even though 9/11 was
- Jul 2, 202650 min
America at 250: What Made the U.S. an Economic Power?
America turns 250 this year, so we take a step back to ask how the United States became one of the world’s richest economies. We explored the institutions, policies, and cultural factors that fueled economic growth, from entrepreneurship and corporations to highways and property rights. Along the way, we debated which overlooked policies deserve more credit and which challenges could shape America’s future. Finally, we looked ahead to what America might look like by its 300th birthday.In this episode, we talk about:* Why the United States became one of the world’s economic powerhouses.* The role of entrepreneurship, immigration, and risk-taking in the American economy.* Which historical policies quietly transformed economic growth.* The biggest economic challenges facing America today.* What innovations and industries could define America over the next 50 years.If you liked this conversation, you might also enjoyThis Week’s Drinks 🍻This week, we kept things refreshing. Jadrian switched things up with a Bold Rock Blueberry Lemon Hard Cider, a perfect summer drink for the Fourth of July. Matt continued working through his Nova Scotia collection with Tatamagouche Brewing Company’s Hippie Dippie Pale Ale, another souvenir from his trip north. Before diving into economics, we also swapped stories from attending FIFA World Cup matches and compared the very different atmospheres created by fans from around the world.Name That Stat 📊This week's numbers all tied into America's 250th birthday celebration. We guessed how much Americans are expected to spend on fireworks this Fourth of July, how many people lived in the United States around the time of Independence, and even how many towns across the country are named "Liberty." A few patriotic statistics made for a fun way to kick off a conversation about America's economic history.Show NotesAmerica’s 250th birthday gave us the perfect excuse to ask one of our favorite kinds of economics questions: why did the United States become so economically successful? We start by thinking through some of the country’s earliest advantages. Was it abundant natural resources? Strong property rights? The legal structure behind corporations? Or was it something less tangible, like a culture that rewarded entrepreneurship and encouraged people to take risks? Generations of people were willing to leave everything behind to create a country where trying something new became part of the national identity.From there, we shifted to the policies that quietly changed the American economy. The Interstate Highway System became one of our favorite examples because it connected markets, expanded labor opportunities, and fundamentally changed how people and businesses interacted across the country. We also talked about the Homestead Act, the Federal Reserve, property rights, the GI Bill, and Social Security, along with the challenge of identifying which policies deserve far more credit than they usually receive.Looking at today’s economy, we each picked an area where we think the United States still has room to improve. Housing affordability stood out as one of the biggest challenges, especially as restrictive building policies make homeownership increasingly difficult in many cities. Healthcare was another major topic, but not because the quality of care has failed to improve, but because paying for it has become increasingly confusing and expensive. We also discussed education costs and how expanding opportunity remains central to long-term economic growth.Finally, we looked ahead to America 300. Will artificial intelligence eliminate jobs the same way earlier technologies replaced occupations that once seemed permanent? Co
- Jun 18, 202653 min
The World Cup Is Making America Look Different
The World Cup has brought millions of international fans to North America, and many are discovering aspects of American life that locals take for granted. Matt and Jadrian explore why visitors are fascinated by things like massive convenience stores, endless product variety, and regional chains. They also dig into the economics behind World Cup ticket prices, player compensation, and the surprising value of hosting global sporting events. Along the way, they discuss how soccer itself is changing as leagues seek new revenue streams.In this episode, we talk about:* Why World Cup visitors are going viral while discovering everyday American experiences.* How economies of scale help explain Buc-ee’s, giant convenience stores, and product variety.* Whether hosting major sporting events creates meaningful economic benefits.* The economics of ticket prices and why they may not be as outrageous as they seem.* How hydration breaks, advertising revenue, and changing soccer rules could reshape the sport’s future.If you liked this conversation, you might also enjoyThis Week’s Drinks 🍻With a morning recording session on a workday, the drinks menu leaned heavily toward breakfast beverages. Jadrian enjoyed a “non-alcoholic mimosa” (also known as orange juice), while Matt powered through with a Diet Mountain Dew that was specifically rebranded as “American Dew 250.” Name That Stat 📊This week featured a pair of World Cup-themed statistics. The first number focused on the cheapest resale ticket price available for one of today’s matches. The other looked at the number of World Cup players who were born in a different country than the one they were representing on the field.Show NotesWith the World Cup underway, one of the most interesting stories hasn’t been happening on the field. Instead, it’s been unfolding across social media as international visitors document their experiences traveling through the United States. Fans have gone viral for their reactions to Waffle House, Taco Bell, giant soda fountains, and especially Buc-ee’s. What seems ordinary to Americans often looks extraordinary to visitors encountering it for the first time.That observation led to a broader discussion about variety, competition, and economies of scale. Jadrian wrote about this in his Monday Morning Economist newsletter, connecting their experience back to the famous stories about Soviet leader Boris Yeltsin visiting American grocery stores decades ago. While the historical circumstances were very different, both stories revolve around the same reaction: amazement at the sheer number of choices available to consumers.From there, we shifted toward the economic impact of hosting events like the World Cup. Economists are often skeptical of exaggerated claims about sports-driven economic growth, but one potential benefit is much harder to measure: positive publicity. The flood of videos showing visitors enjoying American culture may improve perceptions of the United States as a travel destination long after the tournament ends. We also took some time to explore how ticket prices fit into the broader sports marketplace. While some World Cup matches are commanding hundreds or even thousands of dollars on secondary markets, those prices still look modest when compared to recent NBA Finals tickets. The comparison raises an interesting question about scarcity, prestige, and what people are willing to pay for a once-in-a-lifetime experience.Finally, one of the most intriguing economic storylines of this summer’s games is the introduction of hydration breaks. Official
- Jun 4, 202656 min
The Economy by Decade: The 2010s
The 2010s were an unusual economic decade as there was a long recovery from the Great Recession without a major economic shock in the United States. We look at the trends that defined the era, including falling unemployment, the rise of smartphones, the growth of the gig economy, and the emergence of Bitcoin. Along the way, we debate whether Obamacare was the decade’s most important policy and whether low interest rates set the stage for some of today’s economic challenges. The result was a fascinating look at how many of today’s economic realities were built during the 2010s.In this episode, we talk about:* Why the 2010s may be remembered as the “recovery decade.”* The economic impact of smartphones, apps, and Bitcoin.* Which trends from the 2010s still shape the economy today.* The rise of gig work and changing labor markets.* Obamacare and the decade’s biggest policy battles.If you liked this conversation, you might also enjoyThis Week’s Drinks 🍻Jadrian is still working through a Sam Adams variety pack, with this week’s contribution being a Breakaway Blonde. Matt just got back from a cruise up to Halifax, and he’s cracking open a Tiny Angus from Breton Brewing Co. The beer itself wasn’t the entire story, though. The real adventure involved hauling a giant box of Canadian beer off the cruise ship after discovering that local liquor stores sold individual cans from regional breweries. Name That Stat 📊Our numbers this week ranged from timely to topical. Matt shared the annual compensation of FIFA President Gianni Infantino, sparking a conversation about whether that figure is too high, too low, or about right compared to leaders of other major sports organizations. We initially skipped Jadrian’s number entirely, but remembered it midway through the episode. Fortunately, his statistic fit perfectly with our discussion of the 2010s, focusing on the amount of Bitcoin involved in the first-ever commercial purchase of two pizzas.Show NotesWhen people think back on economic history, they usually remember dramatic moments: crashes, recessions, bubbles, or breakthroughs. That’s what makes the 2010s such an interesting decade. One of the defining features of the period may have been the lack of a single major disruptive economic event in the United States. Instead, the decade was largely shaped by a long recovery from the Great Recession and a steady return to economic normalcy.While events like the European debt crisis, concerns over government debt, and political movements such as Occupy Wall Street and the Tea Party captured headlines, much of the economic story centered on slowly improving labor markets, rising household incomes, and a return to economic stability. Unemployment fell from nearly 10% at the start of 2010 to just 3.6% by the end of 2019. At the same time, labor force participation drifted lower as Baby Boomers retired and some workers left the labor market altogether. The result was an economy that slowly but consistently tightened, eventually producing stronger income growth in the latter half of the decade.With the benefit of hindsight, there are several candidates for the decade’s most important economic development. One contender was the rise of the gig economy. Companies like Uber and Lyft normalized flexible work arrangements and created entirely new ways for people to earn income. What felt revolutionary at the time now feels so commonplace that it’s easy to forget how quickly these platforms transformed labor markets.Several other developments quietly reshaped the econo
- May 21, 202653 min
The Economy by Decade: The 2020s
The 2020s have already delivered one of the strangest economic decades in modern history. We unpack how the pandemic reshaped work, inflation, housing, consumer behavior, and even the way economists think about recessions. We debate whether the pandemic or AI will ultimately define the decade, revisit the policy decisions that still shape the economy today, and talk through why everything from used cars to mortgage rates suddenly felt upside down. Along the way, we explore why the economy has seemed surprisingly resilient despite nonstop shocks, disruptions, and uncertainty.In this episode, we talk about:* Whether the pandemic or AI will be remembered as the defining economic event of the 2020s* Inflation, stimulus policies, tariffs, and the strange post-pandemic economy* How housing, work-from-home, and consumer habits permanently changed* Why the 2020s economy has felt unusually weird and unpredictableIf you liked this conversation, you might also enjoyThis Week’s Drinks 🍻Jadrian cracked open a Hardywood Pils, leftover from an end-of-semester cookout with his TAs. He almost grabbed the PBR x Grillo’s Pickle Beer, but decided to save that adventure for a future episode. Matt went with a Hammerhead IPA from Big Oyster Brewery, a West Coast-style IPA brewed with six hop varietals for an intense citrus and grapefruit character with notes of pine.Name That Stat 📊We originally planned to talk about the economics of higher education, so Jadrian brought in a stat on the number of graduate programs in the U.S., which has grown by roughly 69% since the early 2000s. But once we decided to launch our “economics by the decade” series, Matt pivoted to one of the defining economic indicators of the 2020s: the inflation rate that peaked in June 2022 at its highest level since the early 1980s.Show NotesWe’re kicking off a new series that looks back at the biggest economic stories of every decade, starting with the 2020s and working backward through history. We’re taking a shot at making sense of the economic chaos of the 2020s. Honestly, “chaos” might undersell it a little. It should be no surprise that we start with the pandemic, which instantly disrupted employment, supply chains, education, consumer habits, and everyday life. But twenty years from now, will we remember the pandemic as the biggest story, or will the introduction of generative AI ultimately eclipse it?Perhaps the most common theme of the episode is how weird the economy has behaved this decade. Historically, recessions, unemployment, inflation, and growth tended to move together in more predictable ways. The 2020s constantly break those expectations. One easy example: the NBER determined that the pandemic recession officially lasted only two months, even though the traditional shorthand definition of a recession involves two quarters, or six months, of decline. Of course, the disruption lasted much longer than two months, which allowed educators the chance to explain the ways economists define and measure different indicators.The 2020s also included large spikes in inflation without the kind of sustained unemployment that economists might typically expect. The decade saw regional bank collapses, sweeping tariffs, and repeated uncertainty, but markets often just kept chugging along. Even the stock market wasn’t immune to the weirdness. There were also some pretty big policy decisions this decade, not all of which have been consensus picks. A lot of people would argue that the earliest rounds of pandemic relief were necessary to prevent economic collapse, while later stimulus packages may have contributed to inflation once the economy had al
- May 8, 202653 min
Why Teens Stopped Working
Teenagers today are far less likely to work than previous generations. This episode explores the long decline in teen labor force participation and tries to identify some possible causes. The conversation also turns personal, with reflections on the skills we gained from working early. Along the way, we debate whether teenage jobs still provide important lessons in responsibility, communication, and independence.In this episode, we talk about:* Why teen labor force participation has fallen so dramatically since the 1970s * Whether modern teenagers value independence differently than previous generations * How working as a teenager builds confidence, responsibility, and communication skills * The role of extracurriculars and college competition in shaping teen time use * Whether colleges undervalue work experience compared to other activitiesIf you liked this conversation, you might also enjoyThis Week’s Drinks 🍻Jadrian cracked open a Hardywood Fighting Hokie Hefeweizen, although the real story was that he found the unopened can under the seat of his car and has absolutely no idea how it got there. Matt kept things classic with a Dogfish Head 60 Minute IPA. It’s not quite as mysterious, but a reliable go-to.Name That Stat 📊This week’s statistics covered two very different topics. Jadrian shared an estimate on the share of websites created since 2022 that may have been generated with artificial intelligence. Matt brought data on the share of teenagers participating in the labor force back in 1978, which set up the broader conversation for today’s episode.Show NotesThis week’s episode centered on a deceptively simple question: why aren’t teenagers working as much anymore? The decline in teen labor force participation seems to happen in waves, but the long-term trend is unmistakable. One possible explanation is surprisingly simple: fewer teenagers are getting driver’s licenses, which means fewer have the independence or transportation needed to get to work. If there’s no rush to get out of the house and get a car, perhaps teenagers aren’t finding that same rush to get out and go to work. Another possible explanation is financial. With higher household incomes and smaller family sizes, parents may be more able to support their children without requiring them to earn their own spending money. That removes one of the biggest traditional incentives for teenagers to work in the first place.We also discussed how teenagers spend their time differently today. There’s growing pressure to focus on extracurricular activities, sports, leadership positions, and resume-building experiences, especially as college admissions have become more competitive. But that raises an interesting question: why are unpaid extracurriculars often viewed as more valuable than paid work experience?Finally, we explored the idea that some teenagers may avoid work because they don’t see a direct connection between a part-time job and their future career goals. If the payoff is not immediate or obvious, working may feel less worthwhile. In that sense, the decision not to work can become a strategic one rather than simply a matter of laziness or lack of opportunity.We want to hear from the parents out there: do your teenagers want part-time jobs? If not, what do you think changed compared to when you were growing up?Pop Culture Corner 🍿Jadrian’s contribution had absolutely nothing to do with teen employment. Instead, he used the opportunity to recommend a new book from friend-of-the-show Brian O’Roark. His new book, Potternomics<
- Apr 23, 202651 min
The Economics of Non-Compete Agreements
This episode breaks down what non-compete agreements are and why they’ve become such a hot topic in labor economics. Matt and Jadrian explore when these contracts make sense and when they might go too far. They weigh the trade-offs between protecting company investments and limiting worker mobility, while also digging into recent policy debates and what non-competes mean for innovation and entrepreneurship.In this episode, we talk about:* What non-compete agreements are and why companies use them* Whether it’s reasonable to restrict employees from working for competitors* The fairness (or unfairness) of non-competes after leaving a job* The role of non-competes in limiting job mobility and career growth* State-level bans and the brief FTC attempt to outlaw non-competes nationally* Whether non-competes function similarly to patents in protecting investmentsIf you liked this conversation, you might also enjoy:This Week’s Drinks 🍻This week featured a couple of solid, no-nonsense beer picks. Jadrian went with a Sam Adams Cold Snap White Ale, a citrusy, spiced brew with clementine and orange peel that paired perfectly with chips and homemade salsa. Matt opted for a Founders Centennial IPA, a go-to choice that balances quality with value. Nothing says economist like getting a 15-pack for the price of a 12. Classic Matt.Name That Stat 📊This week’s stats covered two very different corners of the economy. Matt brought in the surprisingly large number of Bitcoin ATMs in the U.S. after spotting one at a gas station. Jadrian followed up with a stat tied to last week’s conversation, showing that households spend about 5% more on groceries when men do the shopping compared to women.Show NotesNon-compete agreements sound simple at first: you work for a company, and in return, you agree not to work for their competitors. But the reality is much more nuanced. There are two main types: those that apply while you’re employed and those that extend after you leave. The first type makes a lot of intuitive sense. If you’re working for a company, it’s reasonable they don’t want you splitting time or sharing insights with competitors.Things get trickier with post-employment non-competes. On one hand, companies invest real resources into training employees and developing proprietary knowledge. From that perspective, it makes sense to protect that investment. It’s similar to how patents give firms time to profit from innovation before competitors can copy their ideas. But on the other hand, restricting workers after they leave can limit career opportunities and slow down the natural movement of talent in the economy.There can be some vagueness to these agreements that make the situation even stickier. Saying “you can’t work for a competitor” sounds straightforward, but defining a competitor isn’t always obvious. Is LinkedIn a competitor to a job board? Is Google? Without clear boundaries, these agreements can create uncertainty and risk for workers trying to make career moves.Non-competes may reduce job mobility, which is generally seen as healthy for both workers and firms. There’s also the argument that they suppress entrepreneurship. If people can’t leave to start competing businesses, fewer new ideas make it to market. While some claims (like thousands of startups being lost each year) may be overstated, the underlying concern is real.So, do the benefits of non-competes outweigh the economic costs? We’re in another familiar space for economists: it depends. Non-competes can be reasonable in some contexts, but they can also be overused or abused. The challenge is likely in balancing incentives for firms with freedom for workers.Have you ever been subject to a non-compete agreement? If so, did it actually change how you approached your next job search or the opportunities you considered?Pop Culture Corner 🍿This week’s topic stumped us at first. We couldn’t quickly name a pop culture tie-in for non-compete
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