
CRUDE #44Frank in Berlin and Effie in London are joined by Jonas from the Liebesapfel podcast for a bold, no-filter conversation about God, sex, religion—and all the uncomfortable overlaps in between.They get into the provocative stuff straight away: why do people dress up as nuns and priests, and what’s behind the so-called “Christian fetish” scene? Is it just taboo, or is there something deeper going on with power, symbolism, and desire?Can people be spiritual and religious without organsied religion? Or dowe need to throw the baby with the bathwater when it comes to god?How can religions that preach love and compassion also be tied to exclusion, hypocrisy, and even abuse? Where do those contradictions come from—and why do they keep repeating?The trio also explores the unexpected parallels between kink communities and religious spaces: rituals, rules, trust, belonging, and the pull of something bigger than yourself.Jonas is a Protestant theologian and philosopher currently living inZurich. He co-hosts the German-language podcast Liebesäpfel, where he advocates for a sex-positive approach to religion.Linktree: https://linktr.ee/liebesaepfel_podcastInstagram: @liebesaepfel_podcast*What we were consuming*[Book] Marcella Althaus-Reid. Indecent Theology: Theological Perversions in Sex, Gender and Politics (2000)[Biblical book] Song of Songs[Hindu Gods] Kali & Shiva
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