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How would your life change if you reached Financial Independence and got to the point where working is optional? What actions can you take today to make that not just possible but probable. Jonathan & Brad explore the tactics that the FI community uses to reclaim decades of their lives. They discuss reducing expenses, crushing debt, tax optimization, building passive income streams through online businesses and real estate and how to travel the world for free. Every episode is packed with actionable tips and no topic is too big or small as long as it speeds up the process of reaching financial independence.
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The stock market crashes about once every three years—at least a 20% drop. Most investors panic and sell. But if you understood why markets always recover, you'd do the opposite. Brian Feroldi reveals three mechanical forces that guarantee long-term market resilience, transforming market crashes from terrifying events into predictable opportunities. Key Topics Discussed Introduction to Market Resilience Brad Barrett introduces the concept of understanding market recovery through fundamental mechanics rather than accepting it on faith. Understanding Market Crashes Brian explains crash frequency: 10% drops every eleven months, 15% every two years, 20% every three years, 30% once a decade, and 40%+ drops two to three times per century. Force #1: Stocks Follow Earnings The first fundamental force—stock prices track corporate earnings over time. Brian introduces the man-and-dog analogy: the man (profits) walks steadily uphill while the dog (prices) runs wild on an elastic leash. Watch the man, not the dog. Force #2: Earnings Always Recover Brian breaks down the five-phase economic recovery process: cost-cutting, cleansing, government intervention, innovation, and emergence. The Forest Fire Analogy Economic downturns function like forest fires—clearing deadwood, eliminating weak competitors, and creating optimal conditions for new growth. The COVID pandemic demonstrated this: remote work jumped from under 10% to over 90% in four months. Force #3: Profits Rise Over Time Five systematic drivers cause profits to rise: productivity gains, inflation, innovation, geographic expansion, and population growth. These forces ensure long-term upward trajectory despite temporary setbacks. Investor Psychology and Closing Thoughts Discussion about investor behavior during crashes and the importance of saving this episode for future market downturns when emotional fortitude matters most. Notable Quotes "Stocks follow earnings. As go the earnings of a company or an index, also goes the price or the market value of that same index." — Brian Feroldi "The best time to buy is at the period of maximum pessimism. And the period of maximum pessimism is precisely when you absolutely do not want to buy." — Brian Feroldi "Ninety percent of good investing is how you behave in the 10% of time that things are not going well." — Brian Feroldi "Think of the man walking a dog on an elastic leash. The man represents profits, the dog represents stock prices. Watch the man, not the dog." — Brian Feroldi "Innovation accelerates when times are tough. Necessity is the mother of invention." — Brad Barrett and Brian Feroldi Key Takeaways Google "S&P 500 earnings" and study the 100-year chart showing earnings rather than just stock prices to see the steady upward march of the "man" Save this episode in your investor policy statement to re-listen during the next market crash when you need psychological reinforcement Set up automatic dollar-cost averaging contributions to retirement accounts and commit to never stopping them during downturns Review your asset allocation if you're within 10 years of financial independence to ensure appropriate risk levels and cash cushions Markets typically bottom when news is worst because prices predict earnings recovery 6-9 months ahead Resources and Links Why Does the Stock Market Go Up? by Brian Feroldi The Simple Path to Wealth by JL Collins JL Collins Guided Meditation for Market Drops Afford Anything Podcast with Paula Pant Camp FI Brian Feroldi on YouTube Brian Feroldi on Twitter/X Brian Feroldi on Instagram Brian Feroldi on Threads
Most investors who try to beat the market by picking individual stocks fail—yet research shows only 4% of stocks over the past century created 100% of market wealth. This single statistic reveals why the financial independence community has converged on index investing, but understanding why requires diving into advanced concepts like asset allocation, tax optimization across decades, and the psychology that drives us to panic-sell at exactly the wrong moment. Key Topics Discussed Introduction to FI 201 Jonathan introduces Financial Independence 201, explaining how it builds on FI 101 to help individuals progress from control to optimization and independence on their FI journey. The Genesis of FI 201 Allen and Kristen explain how they identified the need for a 201-level presentation based on questions emerging from their St. Louis FI 101 sessions, particularly around investing concepts. Asset Allocation Fundamentals Allen breaks down asset allocation as "your money pie," discussing how to balance growth, safety, and emergency funds while considering time horizons and diversification strategies. Risk Tolerance vs Risk Capacity The team explores the critical difference between emotional risk tolerance and actual risk capacity, using examples from 2008 and 2020 market crashes to illustrate real-world application. Tax-Advantaged Account Strategies Allen and Brad discuss the various tax treatments of investment accounts including 401(k)s, 457(b)s, Roth IRAs, HSAs, and taxable brokerage accounts, emphasizing lifetime tax optimization. Individual Stocks vs Index Funds The hosts examine the data on individual stock picking, revealing that only 4% of stocks have contributed to 100% of market wealth over the past century, making a strong case for index investing. Dividends and Tax Control Brad and Allen discuss why the FI community often prefers capital gains over dividend income, focusing on the importance of maintaining control over when and how you realize taxable events. Notable Quotes "You can't save your way to FI, you have to invest." — Allen Hansen "When there's a dip, you essentially get to buy the market on sale. If you love a bargain, this is it." — Brad Barrett "It's not what's my tax this year. It is what is going to be my tax burden over my lifetime." — Brad Barrett "The best investing lesson: stand there and do nothing. If you're invested, just don't do anything and you're going to be rewarded." — Allen Hansen "Why in the world do we not think that way when it comes to the market? Our brain completely flips. We're like, ah, we're scared." — Kristen Knapp Key Takeaways Assess your own risk tolerance and risk capacity honestly by considering how you would react to a 30% portfolio drop Review your current asset allocation across all accounts and determine if it aligns with your time horizon and financial goals Calculate the difference between your marginal and effective tax rates to understand your true tax burden Identify which tax-advantaged accounts you have access to (401k, 457b, 403b, HSA, IRA) and ensure you're maximizing employer matches Track every dollar of taxable income if you're on ACA subsidies or approaching any subsidy cliffs to avoid losing benefits Consider whether you have the right balance between taxable, tax-deferred, and tax-free accounts for maximum flexibility in retirement Join or start a local FI group to benefit from community wisdom and learn from others at different stages of the journey Review your portfolio for dividend-heavy investments and consider whether you'd prefer more control over when you realize taxable events Resources and Links FI Friends Travel The Simple Path to Wealth by J.L. Collins — jlcollinsnh.com Tax Planning to and Through Early Retirement by Sean Mullaney and Cody Garrett ChooseFI Community App St. Louis FI Group Arizona State University study on stock market wealth BlackBerry documentary (Netflix…
Devon Gimbel just booked over $250,000 in travel last year using credit card points—but she's the first to tell you award travel isn't "free." It's a strategy for 10x-ing your existing travel budget by strategically matching your routine spending to the right credit cards. Since ChooseFI's original Travel Rewards 101 in 2017, the landscape has matured: annual fees are higher, issuer rules are stricter, and new players like Bilt have revolutionized the game by letting you earn points on rent and mortgage payments. Yet the fundamentals remain: with deliberate card selection and an understanding of transferable points currencies, it's still entirely possible to unlock one to two meaningful trips per year—whether that's economy flights to national parks or first-class seats to Tokyo. Key Topics Discussed 00:00:00 - Introduction and State of Travel Rewards in 2026 Brad introduces Devon Gimbel and discusses how travel rewards have evolved since ChooseFI's first Travel Rewards 101 episode in 2017. They address whether earning significant travel value is still possible despite higher annual fees and stricter rules. 00:05:30 - The Evolution of Award Travel Community Devon reflects on how the travel rewards community has matured since 2013-2014, moving from a monotone focus on premium cabin travel to showcasing diverse travel styles including domestic trips, family travel, and national park adventures. 00:11:45 - Getting Started: First Steps for Beginners Devon outlines how beginners should approach travel rewards by analyzing their top spending categories and selecting one or two intentionally chosen credit cards with strong bonus categories rather than immediately pursuing dozens of sign-up bonuses. 00:16:20 - Sign-Up Bonuses vs. Everyday Spend Strategy Discussion of the balance between chasing new card welcome bonuses and building a sustainable credit card portfolio with strong category bonuses. Devon explains why a hybrid approach works better for most people than constantly opening new cards. 00:22:15 - Understanding Bonus Categories Deep dive into how credit card bonus categories work, why they matter, and how strategic matching of spending patterns to bonus categories can dramatically increase points earning without changing spending behavior. 00:30:00 - The Power of Flexibility Brad and Devon discuss various dimensions of flexibility in travel rewards including travel dates, destinations, airports, cabin class, and types of points currencies. They share contrasting examples from their recent Japan trips. 00:38:45 - Transferable vs. Fixed Points Currencies Devon explains the critical difference between transferable points programs (Chase, Amex, Capital One, Bilt, Citi) and fixed airline/hotel programs, comparing them to Visa gift cards versus single-merchant gift cards. 00:47:30 - The Rise of Bilt Rewards Discussion of how Bilt has emerged as a major transferable points currency, offering the ability to earn points on rent and mortgage payments while providing strong transfer partners that directly compete with Chase Ultimate Rewards. 00:55:00 - Credit Card Issuer Restrictions in 2026 Devon outlines how credit card eligibility rules have tightened, including Chase's evolving restrictions and once-per-lifetime language similar to American Express, emphasizing the importance of deliberate card selection. 01:02:15 - Calculating Travel Value and Points Redemption Devon shares her methodology for calculating the value of points redemptions using her family's Lufthansa first class trip as an example, discussing the difference between 'free travel' and maximizing travel budget value. 01:12:30 - How Devon Earns 6 Million Points Annually Transparent discussion of Devon's points earning including business expenses, mortgage payments through Bilt, quarterly taxes, shopping portals, and strategic use of bonus categories, with acknowledgment that her situation differs from average users. 01:22:00 - Partnership Strategy for Couples Devon expla…
A dead local meetup group attracted just 5 people to its first gathering at a brewery. Two years later, that same group draws 70+ attendees to structured educational sessions, with newcomers driving across multiple states to participate. The transformation reveals something most personal finance education gets fundamentally wrong. Introduction and St. Louis Group Overview [00:00:00] Jonathan and Brad welcome Kristen Knapp and Allen Hansen to discuss how the St. Louis ChooseFI group became one of the most thriving communities in the country. Rebooting a Dormant Community [00:08:30] Kristen shares how she transformed a dormant St. Louis group after attending Camp FI, starting with brewery meetups and evolving to structured case studies that dramatically increased engagement. The Genesis of FI 101 [00:15:45] The hosts discuss how new members needed basic FI education, leading to the creation of a structured FI 101 program that attracted 70+ attendees and continues to grow. Kristen's Journey to Part-Time Work [00:22:10] Kristen shares her 30-year broadcast meteorology career and how the FI community gave her the confidence to negotiate a part-time arrangement, creating space for her FI Friends Travel venture. Allen's Perspective on Giving Back [00:31:20] Allen discusses his motivation to help others after reaching FI himself, emphasizing that anyone can make mistakes and still succeed on the path to financial independence. Structuring FI 101 Content [00:38:00] The group breaks down the essential components of FI 101: defining financial independence, the shockingly simple math of early retirement, and the financial order of operations. The Importance of Your Why [00:45:30] Jonathan proposes that understanding your personal why for FI should be the foundation of any FI 101 program, making it more compelling than traditional personal finance education. Investment Fees and Opportunity Cost [00:52:15] Brad delivers a detailed breakdown of how investment fees can cost millions over a lifetime, using concrete examples to illustrate the importance of low-cost index funds like VTI. Action Items and Next Steps [01:05:40] Allen outlines the two critical action items for FI 101 attendees: tracking net worth and monitoring spending, while the group discusses cadence for ongoing educational sessions. Preview of FI 201 and Future Plans [01:12:00] The hosts wrap up by discussing plans for a second episode covering FI 201 content and how local groups can iterate and improve their educational programming. Notable Quotes "I created what I wished existed. Nobody else is going to do it. Why not me?" — Kristen Knapp "After fifteen years of marriage, we finally hit broke. I think that resonates with people. We did it all wrong with credit card debt, you name it." — Allen Hansen "You can't save your way to FI. It's just almost impossible. You have to invest those dollars." — Allen Hansen "FI is not this passive endeavor and FI is not just about the nuts and bolts of money. This is about a constantly evolving mental framework." — Brad Barrett "Being around other people on the same path is one hundred percent the reason I've been able to create this life, because I would have never even had the idea or the courage to do any of this." — Kristen Knapp Key Takeaways Your savings rate matters more than your income. Someone earning $50,000 and saving 50% will reach FI faster than someone earning $150,000 but saving only 10%. Investment fees compound negatively. A 1% advisor fee plus 1% fund fees can reduce a potential $7.2 million portfolio to just $3.9 million over 40 years. Your FI number is calculated by multiplying annual expenses by 25, based on the 4% safe withdrawal rule. Understanding your personal "why" for pursuing FI is more compelling than traditional budgeting advice and provides the motivation needed for long-term success. Community makes the difference. Local FI groups provide accountability, education, and the courage to make life-changing decis…
Millions of Americans with disabilities face an impossible choice: accumulate emergency savings or keep their government benefits. For decades, Supplemental Security Income's $2,000 asset limit trapped disabled people in poverty. But on January 1, 2026, everything changed. The ABLE Age Adjustment Act doubled eligibility for tax-advantaged disability savings accounts—and it opens the door for approximately 1 million newly eligible veterans. What Are ABLE Accounts and Why Do They Matter? 00:03:30 - ABLE accounts (technically 529A plans) function as specialized savings and investment vehicles for disabled people. Unlike traditional 529 college savings plans, ABLE accounts protect the first $100,000 from SSI's restrictive asset tests. This means disabled individuals can finally build emergency funds without losing critical benefits like healthcare coverage and cash assistance. The accounts offer triple advantages: tax-deferred growth, tax-free withdrawals for qualified disability expenses, and asset protection from means-tested government programs. Qualified expenses are broadly defined—housing, food, transportation, education, employment support, assistive technology, healthcare, and even vacation. As Brynne explains, "When you are disabled, you cannot separate your disability from your personhood. So we're not just talking about medical expenses." Contribution Limits and the ABLE to Work Advantage 00:12:00 - For 2025, the annual contribution limit matches the gift tax exclusion: $19,000. But the ABLE to Work program creates a significant opportunity for working disabled people. If you earn income and don't have an employer-sponsored retirement plan, you can contribute an additional amount up to the federal poverty line (approximately $15,960 for 2026)—potentially nearly doubling your annual contributions. These additional contributions may also qualify for the Saver's Credit (and upcoming Saver's Match), providing further tax benefits for lower-income savers. The ABLE Age Adjustment Act: Doubling Eligibility 00:25:00 - The major change effective January 1, 2026: the disability onset age requirement increased from 26 to 46. This single adjustment doubles the number of eligible Americans and adds approximately 1 million newly eligible veterans. "The ABLE Age Adjustment Act doubles the amount of eligible people. 1 million veterans are now newly eligible. As more people access this account, it lowers administrative burden and fees for everybody," Brynne emphasizes. You don't need to be currently receiving disability benefits to qualify—you just need to meet the Social Security Administration's definition of disabled with onset before age 46. Many states allow self-certification, making access more straightforward than traditional benefits applications. Shopping Across State Lines and Fee Optimization 00:28:00 - Like traditional 529 plans, you can purchase ABLE accounts across state lines. This allows you to optimize for investment options and lower fees. Some states offer attractive tax benefits for residents—Pennsylvania and Mississippi, for example, provide dollar-for-dollar deductions for contributions. As participation increases due to expanded eligibility, administrative costs should continue declining. States like Virginia offer low-fee options with Vanguard ETF portfolios, making cost-conscious investing accessible. Addressing Medicaid Clawback Concerns 00:35:00 - Many people fear Medicaid payback provisions that technically allow states to recover expenses from deceased beneficiaries' ABLE accounts. Brynne addresses this directly: these clawbacks rarely happen in practice. It's typically not administratively worthwhile for states to pursue, and many states have additional protections. For those with significant assets requiring comprehensive estate planning, ABLE accounts work in conjunction with third-party supplemental needs trusts. Unlike ABLE accounts, third-party SNTs (funded by parents or others, not the disabled perso…
Ginger asks Brad a series of hard hitting questions on life and FI.
Adam Coelho stood on stage presenting to Google's CEO at a leadership conference, the culmination of his 14-year career training thousands of Googlers in mindfulness and emotional intelligence. One week later, he was placed on a performance improvement plan—the corporate equivalent of being told your time is up. His story reveals a fundamental truth about financial independence that most people miss until it's too late: having enough money to walk away isn't the same as knowing where to walk toward. Key Topics Discussed [00:00:00] Introduction and Adam's Return Brad welcomes Adam back to explore his transition from Google and introduce the central question: if FI life started tomorrow, what would you actually do? [00:03:30] The Necessary vs. Sufficient Framework Adam introduces the concept that FU money alone isn't enough for true resilience. Unexpected life events can thrust anyone into early retirement without warning, and financial preparedness without life preparedness leaves you directionless. [00:08:15] Identity Beyond Work How much of your identity is tied to prestigious roles and external markers of success? The challenge of discovering who you are when those markers disappear. [00:14:00] Adam's Story: From Peak to Performance Warning The journey from presenting at Google CEO's leadership conference to being placed on a performance improvement plan illustrates how quickly circumstances can change—and why preparation matters. [00:22:00] The Power of Vision and Envisioning The neuroscience behind envisioning: neuroplasticity, how our brains are prediction machines, and why the future we expect is the one we tend to create. [00:32:00] Practical Envisioning Exercises Step-by-step guidance on envisioning your FI life, including the FI Life Jumpstart exercise, journaling practices, and thinking bigger than your current constraints. [00:40:00] Client Success Story: Nick the Flight Doc How one client transformed his life by thinking bigger about his vision, leading to international medical mission trips and better work-life balance. [00:46:00] Planting Seeds: Vision Practices Specific practices for reinforcing your vision: visualization, mindset affirmations, talking about your vision, and mini experiments. [00:54:00] Day One of FI Life Adam describes his actual first day after leaving Google, the importance of giving yourself grace, and transitioning from corporate pace to entrepreneurial freedom. [01:02:00] Final Lessons and Closing Key takeaways about mourning old identities, avoiding the trap of hitting a number without a plan, and starting to live your FI life now. Notable Quotes "FU money is absolutely necessary, but not sufficient on its own. There's actually a second half to true resilience." — Adam Coelho "If FI life started tomorrow, what would you do? We're all on this path to financial independence, but if that life started tomorrow morning, are you ready to start living it?" — Adam Coelho "FU money gives you options and security, but vision gives you direction and momentum." — Adam Coelho "Our story creates our reality. Everything you think, feel, and pay attention to changes the structure and function of your brain." — Adam Coelho "FI number is necessary but not sufficient for a great financially independent life. I think the money without the plan of what does life look like, without the experimentation, without the resilience to take the ups and downs of how life throws things at you, I think if it's just the money, I think you're hopelessly lacking." — Brad Barrett Key Takeaways Download the FI Life Jumpstart exercise at mindfulfire.org/choosefi and complete the envisioning journaling prompt this week Identify one mini experiment you can try this month that aligns with your vision for FI life—something low-risk and low-cost Create 3-5 mindset affirmations based on who you want to become and practice them during meditation or quiet reflection Talk to at least one person about your vision for FI life this week t…
Even financially independent people have lost fortunes to bad investments, high-fee funds, and speculation. Brad Barrett, Alan Donegan, and Katie Donegan lay bare their most expensive mistakes—from Alan's 90% dot-com crash loss to Katie's near-£1 million fee trap to Brad's decade-long real estate nightmare—proving that catastrophic errors don't prevent you from reaching FI if you learn the right lessons. Key Topics Discussed [00:00:00] Introduction: Why Share Mistakes? Brad introduces the episode concept, explaining why sharing financial and life mistakes can help others avoid similar pitfalls on their FI journey. [00:03:30] Alan's Dot-Com Bubble Disaster Alan shares how he lost 90% of his £7,000 life savings investing in high-tech managed growth stocks right before the dot-com crash, and how this scared him away from stock market investing for 13 years. [00:08:45] Brad's Early Investment Mistakes Brad discusses investing in WorldCom and other 'top picks' that went bankrupt, plus getting sold a mutual fund with horrible loads, highlighting that there's no secret investment knowledge reserved for the wealthy. [00:13:20] Katie's High-Fee Fund Trap Katie reveals how a financial advisor convinced her to invest in actively managed funds with 2.71% ongoing fees plus 3% entry charges, a mistake that would have cost her and Alan £1 million if they hadn't discovered index investing. [00:18:50] Brad's Real Estate Speculation Nightmare Brad shares his biggest mistake: speculating on golf course community properties with interest-only loans right before the 2008 crash, causing over a decade of stress and significant financial loss. [00:28:15] Alan's Career Mistakes: The Book Incident Alan reveals how he wrote a book called 'How Not to Run a Business' about his boss on the company laptop, got fired, and learned about speaking truth to power and the importance of FI for workplace freedom. [00:32:40] Katie's Confidence and Comparison Struggles Katie discusses how her fixed mindset and comparison with others held her back from pursuing opportunities like netball and football, and how building confidence is as important as building net worth. [00:42:30] The Power of Saying No and Setting Boundaries The trio discusses the difficulty of being direct and honest, the importance of saying no, and how people-pleasing can create more problems than it solves. [00:48:20] Business Mistakes: Email Lists and Sales Fear Alan shares his regret about never building an email list for his successful business and letting fear of rejection prevent him from scaling, emphasizing the importance of owning your platform. [00:54:10] Salary Negotiation and Final Thoughts Brad discusses not negotiating his salary when changing jobs, the hosts wrap up with reflections on learning from mistakes, and encourage listeners to share their own mistakes in the community. Notable Quotes Brad Barrett: "You can make mistakes and you can make catastrophic mistakes, and you can pick yourself back up and you can move on with your life. You're stronger and you're wiser." Alan Donegan: "Your success in life is directly related to how many mistakes you can make as quickly as possible and learn from them." Alan Donegan: "Spend as much time building your confidence as you do your net worth, because it is so powerful in everything you do going forwards." Katie Donegan: "To rinse the value out of the mistakes, it's a lot more valuable if we share them. I would love you to get the value out of my mistake because I've already paid the price." Brad Barrett: "There's no secret. There's virtually no genius. Don't get caught up in wild speculative behavior." Key Takeaways Invest in low-cost index funds like VTI instead of actively managed funds or individual stocks to avoid high fees and poor performance Build an email list from day one if you're starting a business—don't rely solely on social media platforms you don't control Always negotiate your salary when changing jobs or getting promoted Wor…
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How would your life change if you reached Financial Independence and got to the point where working is optional? What actions can you take today to make that not just possible but probable. Jonathan & Brad explore the tactics that the FI community uses to reclaim decades of their lives. They discuss reducing expenses, crushing debt, tax optimization, building passive income streams through online businesses and real estate and how to travel the world for free. Every episode is packed with actionable tips and no topic is too big or small as long as it speeds up the process of reaching financial independence.
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