Episode 91: The Art of Clabber with Katya Luniova

What if milk was never the problem?In this episode of the Call to Farms Podcast, Sophia sits down with Katya Luniova to explore a forgotten tradition that challenges everything we’ve been taught about dairy.Most of us grew up hearing that milk is hard to digest, inflammatory, or even harmful. But Katya offers a radically different perspective. The issue isn’t milk itself—it’s what we’ve done to it.Together, they dive into the ancient practice of clabbering: simply allowing raw milk to ferment naturally on the counter. No additives. No special tools. Just time. What results is a deeply nourishing, probiotic-rich food that traditional cultures relied on for generations.In this conversation, you’ll discover:- What clabber actually is and why it’s considered the “original” fermented dairy- Why so many people today struggle with dairy—and how fermentation changes everything- The connection between clabber, yogurt, kefir, and other cultured foods- How ancestral cultures (from Eastern Europe to Asia) viewed food as something sacred, not disposable- Practical ways to use every part of milk—from cream to whey—in a sustainable, nourishing waySophia also shares her own journey from avoiding dairy to running a micro-dairy on her Tennessee homestead—and how fermentation has transformed the way her family nourishes themselves.This episode is an invitation to rethink modern food systems, reconnect with ancestral wisdom, and rediscover how simple practices can radically improve gut health and resilience.If you’ve ever questioned what’s really happening to your food—or you’re ready to bring your kitchen back to life—this conversation will open a door you didn’t know existed.If you purchase a Slavic Beauty cream separator and use the code: CALLTOFARMS, you receive a free book!Join our One Day in-person KNF intensive Kitchen course being held on Sunday, May 31st in Johnson City, TN where we will discover Korean Natural Farming together! ⁠⁠Click here for more info.⁠⁠Secure your copy of our forthcoming book, ⁠⁠The Nourishing Asian Homestead⁠⁠.Want some more resources to jumpstart your homestead? ⁠⁠Join our Call to Farms Community.⁠⁠Have questions on buying or selling real estate? ⁠⁠⁠⁠Reach out to Tim directly here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Click Here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to the Prairie Roots Homesteading Summit held on May 15-16 in Watford City, ND.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get Your Early Bird Tickets ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠to the Modern Homesteading Conference in Coeur d'Alene, ID on June 26-27.Join Tim and Sophia at the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chelsea Green Food & Farming Convergence⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ at Polyface Farms on September 25-26, 2026.Join our waitlist for our 2026 Homesteaders United Conference, which will be hosted on our property in East Tennessee. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign Up Here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tune in now and join the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Call to Farms⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Subscribe to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠our weekly newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to stay up to date with the latest happenings!