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by Denny Thompson and Joby Martin
Built 4 More is where high performance, leadership, and faith collide. Hosted by Denny Thompson, the renowned quarterback trainer behind some of the nation’s top talent, and Pastor Joby Martin, founder of The Church of Eleven22, this podcast is for those who refuse to settle. Through conversations with elite performers and industry leaders, Built 4 More unpacks the mindset, discipline, and faith-driven principles that fuel success. This podcast is designed for those who refuse to settle and are built for something bigger.
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Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Shane Winnings, the CEO of Promise Keepers, on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Before he led a national men's ministry, Shane was an Army officer and jumpmaster, then a police officer in one of the most violent stretches of Washington State.He has been shot at in war, and the thing that scared him most was walking up to a stranger to talk about Jesus. This episode is about where that fear comes from, why it hits Christians who are brave everywhere else, and the simple rule that finally beat it.CHAPTERS Army officer, cop, and now the man running Promise Keepers The night on his bed and one sentence from God Quitting the badge with a pregnant wife, funded in 19 days Shot at in war, still scared of a stranger in a park The stranger you're avoiding might have prayed last night Joby's 14,000 foot jump with a team of Navy SEALs Why reps kill fear in every arena You cannot argue anyone into heaven Never apologize for the anointing The past that Romans 8 never mentions Where's the line between the pulpit and politics? Would Jesus abdicate his role as a citizen? The night Charlie Kirk died, from this studio You can hate his values. He is still a person. Demons are discipling your kids 30 feet away
Every week somebody asks where to get merch. The answer has always been you can't. That changes now.Built 4 More merch is officially coming. The first drop is a presale, open for one week. Everything is made to order, so we build exactly what you ask for and nothing else.The email list gets access before anyone else, SIGN UP HERE: https://built4morepod.com/storePastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down and work through the questions you have been sending in, plus how the merch drop is going to run.FOLLOW BUILT 4 MORE🛒 Merch: https://built4morepod.com/store🌐 Website: https://built4morepod.com/📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/built4morepod/👍 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/built4morepod🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@built4morepod🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@built4morepodChapters:2:09 The Big Announcement4:30 Saturated Is Coming10:14 Learning to Follow Jesus as a Grown Man15:53 God's Will Is About Who You're Becoming21:18 Six Baptisms on an Elk Hunt23:42 Is Money the Root of All Evil?37:52 Sin Less, Feel Worse42:34 The Rooms You Don't Let God Into44:29 How to Fight Addiction58:36 Is It Wrong to Make Money in Ministry?1:05:56 Is Online Church Enough?1:09:49 Why You Don't Feel Close to God1:24:09 Football Season Is Here#Built4More #JobyMartin #DennyThompson #Merch #Faith
Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Dr. Joel Muddamalle on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Joel is the Director of Theology and Research at Proverbs 31 Ministries, cohost of Therapy and Theology alongside Lysa TerKeurst, and author of The Unseen Battle. Before any of that, Joel was a Bible software salesman at the peak of his career, traveling 150,000 miles a year while his marriage quietly fell apart. His oldest son started hiding his travel bag because he knew dad would leave when it came out.Joel, Joby, and Denny talk about the reality of spiritual warfare and why the enemy's tactics are more subtle than most people expect. Joel breaks down the ancient pattern of temptation through what we see, what we desire, and what we take, and how that same pattern shows up today through addiction, pornography, AI, entertainment, and comfort. They get into what it means to give the enemy a foothold, what is actually discipling you and your kids, why feelings cannot be the authority over Scripture, how to test the words God told me, and why ordinary obedience in the smallest task matters more than chasing outcomes.FOLLOW BUILT 4 MORE:🌐 Website: https://built4morepod.com/📸 Instagram: / built4morepod👍 Facebook: / built4morepod🎵 TikTok: / built4morepod🎥 YouTube: / @built4morepod
Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down to answer listener questions.If you have a question for a future episode, drop it in the comments.👍 If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to Like, Subscribe, and turn on notifications so you never miss a new episode of Built 4 More.🎙️ Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/built-4-more/id1797411058🎧 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/00qd9DnMZJCGPUQbcNJmH1?si=d683e01fdefb4329FOLLOW BUILT 4 MORE:🌐 Website: https://built4morepod.com/📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/built4morepod/👍 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/built4morepod🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@built4morepod🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@built4morepodChapters:02:17 – I'm Saved. Why Do I Still Feel Guilty?08:49 – How to Find Your Spiritual Gift12:39 – How to Build a Real Connection With God17:44 – Who You Hang Around Matters21:29 – What Full Surrender Actually Looks Like26:16 – If You Won't Wake Up for It, You Don't Want It30:26 – How to Explain Jesus to a Nonbeliever33:29 – Communicating Needs Without Nagging36:00 – Vulnerability in Marriage42:37 – How to Choose a Home Church49:17 – Is Gambling a Sin or Just Dumb?55:24 – Could Jesus Have Sinned?01:02:27 – The Most Important Trait of Biblical Manhood01:05:26 – Can Women Be Pastors?
Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Super Bowl champion Brady Russell of the Seattle Seahawks. Brady grew up in church, led FCA in high school, and knew all the right answers. But looking back, he realized there was a major difference between knowing about Jesus and actually knowing Him.Brady walks through the seasons when God’s plan made little sense in the moment. At Colorado, he had every reason to leave, but while praying he felt God tell him to “be where your feet are.” What followed was one of the hardest seasons of his life, and Brady began wondering if he had heard God wrong. It was only later that he saw what God had been doing through him the entire time.Joby, Denny, and Brady talk about trusting God when you cannot see the outcome, why obedience often comes before understanding, how to recognize God’s faithfulness in hindsight, and what it looks like to follow Jesus when the people around you do not. Brady shares why he prayed for a platform as a kid, only to discover that his greatest platform would not be fame or attention. It would be the relationships right in front of him.Today, Brady is using that platform to disciple other NFL players, lead Bible studies, and live out a faith that can be seen in the way he works, leads, and serves. It is a conversation about being faithful where God has placed you and trusting that no season is wasted when He is the one leading you.FOLLOW BUILT 4 MORE:🌐 Website: https://built4morepod.com/📸 Instagram: / built4morepod👍 Facebook: / built4morepod🎵 TikTok: / built4morepod🎥 YouTube: / @built4morepod
Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Dr. Jeremiah Johnston, New York Times bestselling author of The Jesus Discoveries, president of the Christian Thinkers Society, and one of the world's leading scholars on the resurrection of Jesus. He earned his PhD at Oxford studying the resurrection. Jeremiah did not just talk about the evidence. He put it on the table. The oldest fragment of the New Testament. A replica of the whip that took a third of Jesus's blood. A crown of thorns cut in Jerusalem the week before, from the same tree the Ark of the Covenant was built from. Coins of every man who tried to kill Jesus. And a real first century crucifixion nail, bent and rusted from use, that left Denny speechless. Then he walks through the physics of the Shroud of Turin: an image one fifth the width of a human hair, created by 34 billion watts of energy in a fraction of a billionth of a second, that science still cannot replicate.Joby, Denny, and Jeremiah talk about how we have 5,800 manuscripts of the New Testament, the miraculous healing of Jeremiah's son Abel, why you are the pastor of your home, why faith was never meant to be faith in faith, and the moment a box marked Crown of Thorns showed up on Denny’s doorstep.FOLLOW JEREMIAH:🌐 Website: https://christianthinkers.com/📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_jeremiahj/📕 Get The Jesus Discoveries: https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Discoveries-Historic-Face-Face/dp/0764243667👍 If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to Like, Subscribe, and turn on notifications so you never miss a new episode of Built 4 More.🎙️ Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/built-4-more/id1797411058🎧 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/00qd9DnMZJCGPUQbcNJmH1?si=d683e01fdefb4329FOLLOW BUILT 4 MORE:🌐 Website: https://built4morepod.com/📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/built4morepod/👍 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/built4morepod🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@built4morepod🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@built4morepodChapters:00:00 – Meet Dr. Jeremiah Johnston09:33 – Is the Bible Just a Copy of a Copy10:43 – Holding the Oldest Fragment of the New Testament19:11 – We Don't Have Faith in Faith21:06 – How the Manuscripts Were Actually Written30:53 – We Only Have 26 Days of Jesus's Life35:33 – The Whip That Took a Third of His Blood40:47 – The Ark of the Covenant Connection45:43 – Why We Don't Take Sin Seriously52:30 – Psalm 22 Was Written Before Crucifixion Existed53:17 – Holding a Real Crucifixion Nail1:05:52 – Coins of Every Man Who Tried to Kill Jesus1:13:14 – Growing Up in Church vs Knowing Why You Believe1:20:35 – Shroud of Turin1:24:38 – The Morning of April 5, AD 331:34:11 – A PhD in the Resurrection at Oxford#Built4More #JeremiahJohnston #ChristianPodcast #Faith #Jesus #Resurrection #ShroudOfTurin #Apologetics
Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Edwin Martin on this week’s episode of Built 4 More.At 20 years old, Edwin was hiding a four year gambling addiction that nearly cost him his life. He was borrowing money he couldn’t repay, carrying debts no one knew about, and placing bets from the church pew while claiming to follow Jesus.It ended with Edwin alone on his bathroom floor, ready to take his own life. He prayed one desperate prayer: “God, if You are real, reveal Yourself.” Ten seconds later, his best friend unexpectedly texted him three words: “I love you.” That text interrupted Edwin’s darkest moment, and the friend who sent it would eventually lead him to Christ.Five years later, Edwin is an endurance athlete using every mile to point people toward hope. He recently ran 133.2 miles on a treadmill for 24 hours straight at a 10:49 minute per mile pace to raise money for suicide prevention. Months earlier, he ran across the entire state of South Carolina to support families battling cancer.Joby, Denny, and Edwin talk about the gambling epidemic hiding in plain sight, how sports betting is being engineered to keep people hooked, the difference between Jesus plus something and Jesus alone, why the enemy doesn’t care how he hooks you, and what can happen when you obey a nudge from God. They also discuss fitness without fulfillment, stewarding your body as an act of worship, and The Ship, which is Edwin’s mission to mentor fatherless boys.If you have ever hidden a struggle behind a smile or wondered whether your story can still be redeemed, this conversation is for you.Follow Edwin: https://www.instagram.com/ironsned/👍 If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to Like, Subscribe, and turn on notifications so you never miss a new episode of Built 4 More.🎙️ Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/built-4-more/id1797411058🎧 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/00qd9DnMZJCGPUQbcNJmH1?si=d683e01fdefb4329FOLLOW BUILT 4 MORE:🌐 Website: https://built4morepod.com/📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/built4morepod/👍 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/built4morepod🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@built4morepod🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@built4morepodChapters:00:00 Meet Edwin Martin00:24 Running 133 Miles in 24 Hours02:08 Running Across South Carolina02:55 The Transformation Photo06:05 Why Edwin Runs for Suicide Prevention06:23 The Gambling Addiction Nobody Knew About06:53 The Text That Saved His Life07:45 Sports Betting’s Hidden Cost08:54 How to Know When You Have a Problem10:27 You Can Bet on Anything Now12:49 Is Jesus Really Enough?13:08 The Enemy Doesn’t Care How He Hooks You14:43 Why Monday Night Football Exists17:07 They’re Engineering Your Brain18:56 The Friend Who Led Edwin to Christ21:34 Why He Walked Away From the Navy SEALs22:16 The Text That Changed His Path23:07 When God Tells You to Text Someone24:55 The Hardest Text Joby Ever Sent27:33 Three Phone Calls That Saved Three Lives31:11 A Message for Anyone in a Dark Place32:11 The Messages That Keep Coming33:24 The Biggest Struggles Facing His Generation35:58 Fitness Without Fulfillment37:00 Running Is Just the Vehicle38:04 The Greyhound Chasing a Fake Rabbit40:48 The Antidote Nobody Wants to Hear45:04 Can Working Out Glorify God?47:26 Work Is Worship48:06 Joby’s 30-Pound Comeback51:19 Love God With All Your Strength54:53 Seized by a Greater Affection59:35 You Only Have One Life1:01:04 Jesus Plus Something Isn’t Jesus1:01:44 The Ship: Mentoring Fatherless Boys1:03:41 Who Will Pick Up Your Mat?1:10:18 No More Casual Christianity1:12:54 Your Story Isn’t Over1:15:10 Project Savior Outdoors#Built4More #EdwinMartin #ChristianPodcast
Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Jacksonville Jaguars head coach Liam Coen on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Liam was a four-year starting quarterback at UMass where he still holds multiple school passing records. He spent nearly a decade grinding through small Northeast programs Brown, Rhode Island, and Maine, writing handwritten letters and knocking on every NFL door he could find, until one relationship finally got him in with Sean McVay and the Rams. A few years later he's the head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars, and in year one he took a franchise that had been going nowhere and led it to 13 wins and a division championship.But long before any of that, Liam walked through the hardest thing of his life. He opens up about losing his mother, Beth after a four year battle with Lyme disease while he was in college and his dad was in the hospital. He talks honestly about burying that grief for a decade, the way it eventually crept up and started to eat at him, the mental health toll of pretending he was fine, and how a real relationship with Jesus finally brought him grace, forgiveness, and healing.Joby, Denny, and Liam talk about authenticity and why players "sniff out a fraud" instantly, the permission to fail that unlocked Trevor Lawrence, why he deleted all of his social media, the difference between a hero and a warrior, why "balance doesn't exist," what Travis Hunter really brings to the locker room, and what it looks like to stop trying to be someone else and become who God actually made you.👍 If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to Like, Subscribe, and turn on notifications so you never miss a new episode of Built 4 More.🎙️ Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/built-4-more/id1797411058🎧 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/00qd9DnMZJCGPUQbcNJmH1?si=d683e01fdefb4329FOLLOW BUILT 4 MORE:🌐 Website: https://built4morepod.com/📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/built4morepod/👍 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/built4morepod🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@built4morepod🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@built4morepodChapters:00:00 – Meet Coach Liam Coen04:36 – Why He Fell in Love With Jacksonville07:11 – How He Turned the Jaguars Around09:48 – Did He Know Trevor Could Be This?10:19 – Watching Trevor Lawrence as a Freshman13:17 – "Go Be You": Unlocking Trevor15:28 – The Permission to Fail18:21 – Why He Stopped Trying to Be Other Coaches20:17 – The Houston Collapse21:12 – Hero vs. Warrior: The Meeting That Turned the Season24:59 – The Youngest Staff in NFL History27:24 – "Do I Belong Here?"30:25 – The Night He Knew He Belonged32:39 – What Sean McVay Taught Him About People33:32 – Tony Boselli and the Standard35:18 – The Travis Hunter Trade35:44 – The Real Travis Hunter39:34 – From UMass QB to NFL Head Coach40:38 – How He Went From Maine to the Rams46:37 – "We'll Play Anybody, Anywhere, Anytime"49:22 – The Pressure of High Expectations51:56 – Losing His Mom55:07 – The Trauma He Buried for 10 Years55:50 – How Faith Brought Him Grace and Forgiveness59:05 – The Cleats and the Holy Spirit1:00:38 – The Myth of "There"1:01:28 – The Question That Made Him Quit Social Media1:03:26 – Why Balance Doesn't Exist1:05:48 – Family Days and Putting People First1:08:22 – Why He's Grateful to Coach in Jacksonville#Built4More #LiamCoen #Jaguars #NFL #ChristianPodcast #Faith #Testimony
Built 4 More is where high performance, leadership, and faith collide. Hosted by Denny Thompson, the renowned quarterback trainer behind some of the nation’s top talent, and Pastor Joby Martin, founder of The Church of Eleven22, this podcast is for those who refuse to settle. Through conversations with elite performers and industry leaders, Built 4 More unpacks the mindset, discipline, and faith-driven principles that fuel success. This podcast is designed for those who refuse to settle and are built for something bigger.
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