Brandfathers

A Marketer's Guide to Licensing & Collabs

February 23, 2026·50 min
Episode Description from the Publisher

From the Frida Baby packaging crisis to the billion-dollar business of brand licensing this episode covers it all. We brought on Steve Starobinsky, Head of Partnerships at Pudgy Penguins and 25-year licensing veteran, to break down how licensing deals actually work: the royalties, the minimum guarantees, the 18-month calendars, and why most brands get into it too early. Plus, the Eileen Gu debate, when brand humor crosses the line, and why "sales is a contact sport."0:00 - Intro0:18 - Frida Baby controversy7:00 - Edgy copy gone wrong10:35 - Werner Herzog on rumors16:00 - Eileen Gu debate20:00 - Meet Steve Starobinski22:30 - Licensing 10130:30 - Licensing vs. collabs35:50 - Pitching IP holders41:00 - Best value in licensing44:30 - Biggest licensing mistakes47:00 - Licensing Expo in Vegas49:45 - Where to find SteveAs always, thanks for watching. Let us know your feedback in the comments.Subscribe for unfiltered marketing breakdowns from the most trusted fathers in the game: ‪@orenmeetsworld‬ ‪@Shwinnabego‬ & ‪@JordanRogers2626‬Sub to our Newsletter: ⁠https://www.Brandfathers.org

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