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by Jeremy Utley & Henrik Werdelin
Beyond the Prompt dives deep into the world of AI and its expanding impact on business and daily work. Hosted by Jeremy Utley of Stanford's d.school, alongside Henrik Werdelin, an entrepreneur known for starting BarkBox, prehype and other startups, each episode features conversations with innovators and leaders to uncover pragmatic stories of how organizations leverage AI to accelerate success. Learn creative strategies and actionable tactics you can apply right away as AI capabilities advance exponentially.
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Jim VandeHei joins Henrik and Jeremy around the launch of his new book, Simplify: Do 50% More With 50% Less, co-authored with Mike Allen and Roy Schwartz. In the conversation, Jim shares how he’s leading Axios through AI, from turning himself into an “AI lab rat” to rethinking how the company works.At Axios, Jim gave everyone access to ChatGPT, brought in training, and invited employees who took naturally to the technology to help others across the company. He also shares how AI fellows working directly with him prototype new ideas, why companies should delete unnecessary work before automating it, and how Axios is preparing for a world where more information moves from the open web into social platforms and personalized LLMs.The conversation ends with a bigger question: what story are we telling people about an AI-enabled future? Jim worries that the negative case for AI is vivid and easy to understand, while the positive case often amounts to curing cancer or eliminating work. He makes the case for something more tangible: using AI to make people’s work and lives better while preserving human connection and the feeling that what people do still matters.Jim's new book: Simplify: Do 50% more with 50% less“Confessions of an AI Lab Rat”: Read here!Axios: Axios.comJim's LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/JimVandeHeiKey TakeawaysLeaders need to become AI lab ratsLeaders need firsthand experience with AI to understand what it can do and give others permission to experiment.Give the CEO an AI “SEAL team”Jim’s AI fellows help him prototype ideas quickly, stay current, and experiment outside the normal company processes.Delete before you automateBefore using AI to make existing work faster, ask which meetings, processes, and activities shouldn’t exist at all.AI needs a better story about what goes rightThe negative future of AI is easy to picture. Jim argues we need a more tangible vision of how AI can improve people’s lives without losing purpose and human connection.00:00 Intro: Predictions for the future00:46 Meet Jim VandeHei01:06 Becoming an AI Lab Rat04:21 How Axios Got Everyone Using AI05:46 Who Gets the Most Out of AI?08:27 The AI Understanding Gap11:04 How Jim Keeps Up With AI14:20 Building Axios for an AI Future20:47 The CEO’s AI “SEAL Team”23:52 Writing for Humans and LLMs26:49 Delete Before You Automate30:46 The Monthly Mentality35:58 AI-Assisted Writing and Authenticity41:47 The Coming Political Backlash47:42 A Better Story for AI55:25 The Debrief For more prompts, tips, and AI tools. Check out our website: https://www.beyondtheprompt.ai/ or follow Jeremy or Henrik on Linkedin:Henrik: https://www.linkedin.com/in/werdelinJeremy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyutley Show edited by Emma Cecilie Jensen.
Bryce Chalamel, now head of AI strategy and adoption at OpenAI, argues that AI is transforming knowledge workers into intelligence workers by elevating the cognitive surface of work—comparable to the shift from writing to printing. The real challenge isn’t the technology, but the human mindset: trust must be earned, not dictated, and success hinges on emotional readiness, not just technical capability.
At Logitech, AI adoption has evolved from isolated experiments to a deeply embedded cultural and operational shift, driven by workflow integration, leadership modeling, and tools like the Build Advisor and Board Advisor gems that democratize access and learning. The real breakthrough isn’t just in creation, but in cultivating disciplined deletion—letting go of outdated processes to make space for innovation.
The core challenge facing modern organizations is balancing exploitation of existing successful models with exploration of new innovations, especially in the age of AI. While many companies focus on efficiency (exploitation), long-term survival requires deliberate investment in exploration, cultural adaptability, and structural separation of new ventures — as exemplified by Amazon and Microsoft’s transformations. The average life expectancy of an S&P 500 company is now projected to drop to just 12 years, signaling a systemic failure in organizational adaptability. True resilience comes not from predicting the future but from designing systems that can discover it through experimentation, scaling, and cultural reinforcement of risk-taking.
In a candid and introspective conversation, author Dan Pink shares how he uses AI as a brutally honest advisor to uncover personal blind spots, confront the risk of irrelevance, and strengthen self-awareness. Joined by hosts Jeremy Utley and Henrik Werdelin, the discussion expands into intellectual humility, the nature of agency, and the importance of taste in an AI-driven world where execution is easy but discernment is scarce.
Geoff Woods, author of The AI-Driven Leader, returns to discuss how leaders must personally engage with AI to lead effectively, emphasizing that AI adoption is not about tools but about elevating human thinking and strategy. The conversation centers on the gap between leaders who delegate AI initiatives and those who embody them, with a focus on using AI as a thought partner to unlock deeper insight, alignment, and innovation.
Christian Catalini, a tech founder and former academic, discusses his recent paper on the economic implications of approaching artificial general intelligence (AGI), arguing that while intelligence is becoming commodified and cheap, the critical bottleneck for humans will be verification—the ability to judge whether AI-generated outputs meet a standard of quality, accuracy, or intent. He emphasizes that this shift demands individuals and organizations to rethink their roles, not as producers of intelligence, but as verifiers, directors, and orchestrators of AI systems.
Cognitive neuroscientist Chantel Prat explores how curiosity, individual brain differences, and psychological safety shape our ability to learn and collaborate with AI. She argues that true growth comes not from comparing ourselves to AI, but from using it to become more authentically ourselves.
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