Beyond Coding

Why the Frontrunners Say Coding Is Solved BUT Engineering is Not

June 17, 2026·51 min
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Jeroen Gordijn and Jeroen Dee: two frontrunners who stopped writing code months ago and say software development is already solved. Typing code is no longer necessary, but what matters more now? If you're an engineer that loves coding, you're in a tougher spot than you might realize.In this video, we cover:- Why writing code is "solved" but engineering isn't- Spec-driven development and how to get it started in your team- The "Dark Factory" and why code review is a huge bottleneck- Model vs harness: what matters more, and why- The unhealthy side of agentic codingIf you write software for a living and you're trying to work out what your job becomes next, start here.Timestamps:00:00:00 - Coding Is No Longer Necessary00:00:43 - Why "Software Development Is Already Solved"00:02:57 - Should You Even Read the AI's Code?00:05:05 - What Is a "Dark Factory"?00:06:52 - If You Can Regenerate It, Why Care About Quality?00:07:49 - Spec-Driven Development Explained00:11:32 - Adopting Specs Without Starting From Scratch00:13:23 - Model vs Harness: What Matters More?00:17:27 - Is Your Harness the New IDE?00:20:18 - Why Everyone Plateaus (and the Innovation Token)00:22:50 - Where to Actually Spend Your Time00:24:57 - The Unhealthy Side: "It's Free Cocaine"00:28:00 - Is This Sustainable, or Just Subsidized?00:30:33 - Should You Run Models Locally?00:34:31 - Looping, Scale, and Automating Review00:37:53 - What's Left for Engineers to Do?00:39:13 - If You Love Writing Code, You're in Trouble00:41:18 - Why Teams Are Getting Smaller00:43:03 - What an "Agentic Company" Looks Like00:46:25 - How to Start: Find Your Spark00:50:13 - The One Habit That Keeps You AheadGuests: Jeroen Gordijn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeroengordijnJeroen Dee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeroendee#AgenticEngineering #SoftwareEngineering #Agents

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