
This episode is going to be a deep dive into extended-state dimethyltryptamine, otherwise known as DMTx. Our guests for this episode are Hayley Mann and Kevin Thorbahn, who run Dream Mind Labs one of only a handful of places in the world where DMTx is available outside of clinical trials. They are on the show to talk about: 🧬 What DMTx is and how it works 🌀 What people experience during a DMTx session 🙋 Why people choose to undergo the experience ⏱️ How long people stay in for 💡 What people get out of the experience 🏥 Where DMTx may fit in the growing psychedelic medical and personal use landscape ⚖️ The legal situation in Colorado that allows them to legally run Dream Mind Labs ⚠️ The dangers present in undergoing DMTx 👽 The nearly universal experience of encountering and communicating with entities or aliens 🔫 The "DMT laser thing" 🎵 The role of music and sound during a DMTx session 🤯 Some of the weirder things they have experienced as facilitators This was a super interesting interview for me, and I found Haley and Kevin very easy and joyful to talk with. It was easily one of the most at-ease and "myself" I have felt in an interview in a long time, and I look forward to sharing it with you now. Enjoy! 🌀 Website and Episode Show Notes ✉️ Connect with Dream Mind Labs FULL TOPICS BREAKDOWN BELOW ... 🤩 EPISODE SPONSOR AMENTARA is a credible source of legal psychoactive plants and extracts, most notably, Amanita Muscaria mushrooms—the red mushroom with white spots that shows up in folklore, Christmas imagery, and old shamanic traditions. Check them out at: https://www.jameswjesso.com/amentara Use the promo code ATTM22 for 22% off your first order ... SUPPORT THE PODCAST 🥰 Support ATTMind and join the community on Patreon 🎧 Sub and Review on Apple Podcasts 🎧 Sub and Review on Spotify 👁 Watch and Subscribe on Youtube *** Huge thanks to my patrons on Patreon! In particular, my $23+ patrons; Andreas D, Alex F, and Eliz C With a special thanks to MP Society for their generous one-time donation. Other options Toss me a tip on PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/biz/fund?id=383635S3BKJVS Toss me a tip on Ko-Fi: https://ko-fi.com/jameswjesso Buy some merchandise: https://www.jameswjesso.com/shop/ More Options: https://www.jameswjesso.com/support Connect with Me Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/jameswjesso.bsky.social Twitter/X: https://x.com/jameswjesso LinkedIn: https://www.instagram.com/attmindpodcast/ Newsletter: https://www.jameswjesso.com/newsletter SubStack: https://substack.com/@jameswjesso Telegram Channel: https://t.me/jameswjesso Integration Coaching: https://www.jameswjesso.com/jesso-private-skype-sessions/ ... Episode Breakdown (00:00) Ad (Amentara) (00:36) Opening (04:46) Interview Begins (04:55) The legality of DMTx and other psychedelics in Colorado (11:04) DMTx, what it is and how it works (16:33) How long people stay in the DMT experience (18:00) The level of intensity people go
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