
"What happens when the moment of truth isn't onboarding - it's the moment the money moves?"Businesses pour resources into KYC, fraud modelling, and onboarding checks. But fraud doesn't really happen until the money goes out, and by then, it's often too late to get it back.This week's guest is Apurva Shrivastava, Product Lead for Global Payments Product at Amazon. He breaks down why payout fraud is one of the most underestimated risks in the industry, and why "we caught it at onboarding" isn't enough on its own.We cover the three phases of cash-out fraud: Account farming, waiting for a trigger event, and burst execution, why payout fraud often gets booked as an "operational loss" instead of a fraud loss, and what a disbursement-time identity assurance score could look like in practice.As Apurva puts it: platforms have to be right every time. Fraudsters only need to be right once.Sumsub's Website: sumsub.comSumsub's LinkedIn: linkedin.com/sumsubSumsub's Instagram: instagram.com/sumsubcomSumsub on X: x.com/SumsubcomSumsub's YouTube Channel: youtube.com/@sumsubcomThomas Taraniuk on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tomtaraniukApurva Shrivastava on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/apurva-shrivastava/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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