Upaya Zen Center's Dharma Podcast
Varela 2026: A Conversation with Michael Pollan (Part 9)
September 1, 2026·1h 3m
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In Part 9 of the Varela Contemplative Science Retreat, Roshi Joan Halifax introduces a pre-recorded conversation with author Michael Pollan on the value and limits of mystical experience. Drawing on William James’s pragmatic test — treat mystical insight as a hypothesis, not proof — Pollan traces what these states teach us: chiefly, that self and consciousness can be disaggregated. Source
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