Upaya Zen Center's Dharma Podcast

Forgetting the Ox, Forgetting the Self

April 27, 2026·43 min
Episode Description from the Publisher

In this Wednesday Night Dharma Talk, offered during the fourth day of Upaya’s Spring Practice Period sesshin, Sensei Shinzan guides us through the seventh and eighth stages of the Ten Ox-Herding Pictures — two of the most profound moments in the Zen map of awakening. The seventh stage, Forgetting the Ox, marks the end of the seeker: grasping falls away, the division between practice and life… Source

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