An October 8 Evolution (w/ Josh Szeps)

Josh Szeps, Australian broadcaster and the host of the fantastic podcast Uncomfortable Conversations, joins us IRL in a noisy Israeli restaurant in New York City — on the anniversary of October 7 — to discuss the evolution of his thinking on Israel and Anti-Semitism. Come for the reflections on Zionism, stay for the disagreements, interruptions, and cheap shots at Australia.In this episode :-Words to retire & our nostalgic media loyalties [0:00-9:19]-The Culture War and leaving the ABC [9:20-13:09]-October 7 to Josh’s controversial op-ed [13:10-18:36]-The Anti-Zionism narrative and the Bondi Beach attack [18:37-25:12]-The performance of Post-Colonial white Liberal guilt [25:13-36:08]-The case for a more heterodox Jewry [36:09-54:33]You might also like:-John Aziz on Uncertain Things-Dr. Einat Wilf on Uncertain Things-Adam Louis-Klein on Uncertain ThingsUncertain Things is hosted and produced by Adaam James Levin-Areddy and Vanessa M. Quirk. To support us and gain access to exclusive content, consider becoming a paid member of Uncertain on Substack. Get full access to Uncertain Things at uncertain.substack.com/subscribe