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- Apr 25, 2025interview50 min7-min read
BDTP. Marketing Channels vs Programs with Asia Orangio
Marketing should evolve from isolated channels into cohesive, revenue-generating programs that unify multiple channels around a theme, content piece, or campaign. True growth comes not just from tactical execution but from creative, empathetic, and intentional marketing that treats programs as systems, not one-offs. The most impactful marketing often emerges not from data alone, but from founder-led experimentation, creative risk-taking, and deep customer empathy.
- Mar 28, 202532 min
Episode 292: Using Tokens in Design Systems with Jan Six
How can tokens help your design and development teams become more efficient? Our guest today is Jan Six, staff product designer at GitHub and co-creator of Tokens Studio. You’ll learn how design components and tokens correlate on a technical level, why adoption is the biggest challenge in design systems, how you can get started with creating your own systems, and more.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesTokens StudioNaming Tokens in Design Systems – an article by Nathan CurtisThe Many Faces of Themeable Design Systems – an article by Brad FrostPrimer – GitHub’s design systemVisit Jan’s websiteFollow Jan on BlueskyThis episode is brought to you by Wix Studio — the new web platform for agencies and enterprises. The magic of Wix Studio is its advanced design capabilities which makes website creation efficient and intuitive. Here are a few things you can do:Work in sync with your team on one canvasReuse templates, widgets and sections across sitesCreate a client kit for seamless handoversAnd leverage best-in-class SEO defaults across all your Wix sitesStep into Wix Studio to see more at wix.com/studioInterested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.
- Feb 28, 202539 min
BDTP. The Impact Mindset with Connor Joyce
Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk to Connor Joyce, senior user researcher at Microsoft and author of Bridging Intention to Impact. You'll learn why you need to ask if your product is really working, the five success metrics for products, some approaches to collecting behavioral data, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesBridging Intention to ImpactDesired Outcome LabsFollow Connor on LinkedInThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about this new show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. Onboard, engage, and nurture your customers, as well as marketing leads. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.
- Feb 7, 202535 min
Episode 291: Shippable User Research with Alice Lee
Is research still a great investment? Our guest today is Alice Lee, Strategy Director at Work & Co. You’ll learn about their shippable user research process, how to ask the right questions about things you don’t know, how they helped GoFundMe with their charity action page, and more.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesWork & CoJust Enough Research – a book by Erika HallUX Collective – a great blog on designCheck out Alice’s websiteFollow Alice on LinkedInThis episode is brought to you by Wix Studio — the new web platform for agencies and enterprises. The magic of Wix Studio is its advanced design capabilities which makes website creation efficient and intuitive. Here are a few things you can do:Work in sync with your team on one canvasReuse templates, widgets and sections across sitesCreate a client kit for seamless handoversAnd leverage best-in-class SEO defaults across all your Wix sitesStep into Wix Studio to see more at wix.com/studioInterested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.
- Jan 24, 202529 min
BDTP. Bullseye Customer Research with Michael Margolis
Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk to Michael Margolis, UX Research Partner at Google Ventures. You'll learn about their bullseye customer sprint, the difference between an ideal customer profile and the bullseye customer, how to apply prototypes, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesLearn More Faster – Michael’s bookFollow Michael on LinkedInThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about this new show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. It matches the complexity of your customer data, including many-to-many relationships between users and companies. Book your demo call today at userlist.com.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.
- Jan 10, 202532 min
Episode 290: Creativity in Digital Product Design with John Roescher
Can creativity become your competitive advantage? Our guest today is John Roescher, founder of Raw Materials. You’ll learn about their framework for client projects, how they helped Volta scale and get acquired, why differentiating yourself is a difficult journey, and more.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesRaw MaterialsStart With Why – a book by Simon SinekFollow John on LinkedInThis episode is brought to you by Wix Studio — the new web platform for agencies and enterprises. The magic of Wix Studio is its advanced design capabilities which makes website creation efficient and intuitive. Here are a few things you can do:Work in sync with your team on one canvasReuse templates, widgets and sections across sitesCreate a client kit for seamless handoversAnd leverage best-in-class SEO defaults across all your Wix sitesStep into Wix Studio to see more at wix.com/studioInterested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.
- Dec 20, 202427 min
BDTP. Product SEO with David Pasztor
Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk to David Pasztor, founder of UX studio and Ranking Raccoon. You'll learn why they built a platform for link collaboration, how to target transactional keywords, how they’re doing SEO for their own product, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesUX studio – David’s companyUXfolio, Copyfolio, Archifolio, Ranking Raccoon – their productsRanking Raccoon email exampleBuilding Two-sided Marketplaces with John DohertyCheck out Ranking RaccoonFollow David on LinkedInThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about this new show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. Onboard, engage, and nurture your customers, as well as marketing leads. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.
- Dec 6, 202434 min
Episode 289: OKRs in Product Development with Jeff Gothelf
How do you make your OKRs truly customer-centric? Our guest today is Jeff Gothelf, a coach, trainer, speaker, and author of five books. You’ll learn how to identify and drive results, why cross-functional collaboration is important in determining OKRs, how to get started with OKRs, and more.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesWho Does What By How Much – Jeff’s latest bookEpisode 137: Lean, Agile & Design Thinking with Jeff GothelfEpisode 273: Publishing Options for Design Books with Louis RosenfeldMeasure What Matters – a book by John Doerr2022 Cleveland Clinic OKRsGet a copy of Jeff’s latest bookFollow Jeff of LinkedInVisit Jeff’s websiteThis episode is brought to you by Wix Studio — the new web platform for agencies and enterprises. The magic of Wix Studio is its advanced design capabilities which makes website creation efficient and intuitive. Here are a few things you can do:Work in sync with your team on one canvasReuse templates, widgets and sections across sitesCreate a client kit for seamless handoversAnd leverage best-in-class SEO defaults across all your Wix sitesStep into Wix Studio to see more at wix.com/studioInterested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.
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