Why Governments Can’t Unplug From Elon Musk

Elon Musk may be an extreme figure, but the authors of Muskism: A Guide for the Perplexed argue he represents a much bigger dynamic that's quickly taking shape, one where promises of “sovereignty through technology” may permanently embed tech figures such as himself at the center of government and society. Stephanie Flanders speaks with Ben Tarnoff and Quinn Slobodian about how Musk turned close ties with government into extraordinary power, and what his rise tells us about the changing relationship between Big Tech, the state and the global economy.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.