Trench Talk

Ep. 335: Pastors thinking through retirement

September 8, 2026·37 min
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Contact us. We’d love to serve youGive financially to support the work of helping pastors thriveFind out more information about the Advancing the Church Conference.Write a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify(01:15) Framing the topic: pastors, money, and the question of retirement(02:30) Biblical tension: trust God vs. plan wisely for the future(04:30) Providing for wives and widows; inheritance and 1 Timothy 5:8(06:45) Calling, longevity in ministry, and the “20–25% who make it to retirement age”(08:30) Brian and Jim’s ages and seasons; Dr. Robert Smith Jr. on “I’m not retiring, I’m reassigned”(10:20) Longer lifespans, medical costs, and needing expert financial help(12:05) Life insurance amounts, caring for a likely-longer-lived wife, and Social Security decisions(14:10) Power of starting small: investing early (e.g., $100/month from age 30)(15:40) Split in the road: U.S. context vs. international context for pastors(16:50) Global realities: pastors in parsonages with no home, savings, or safety net (Philippines example)(18:00) Denominational support, pensions drying up, and intergenerational housing as a “retirement plan”(19:00) U.S. pastors: Social Security, basic salary packages, and lack of formal retirement accounts(20:45) Owning a home vs. long-term parsonage living; basic retirement practices for U.S. pastors(22:30) Medical costs, health-sharing programs, and the burden of healthcare in later life(24:10) Core exhortation: don’t punt on planning—life insurance, small retirement contributions, home ownership(26:00) International pastors: when retirement options are minimal, planning with children and family(27:00) Developing a life skill / bivocational trade to support long-term provision(28:00) Encouragement for bivocational pastors and challenges for older men without alternate skills(29:15) “Retirement” vs. “reassignment” in ministry callings(30:45) Jim’s distinction: calling to full-time pastoral work vs. continued service in other roles(32:10) Case study: seminary president planning to step down at 75, then feeling able to keep serving(33:30) Practical implications: stepping aside from paid role while freeing salary for younger men(34:30) Importance of planned transition before you “feel done” (Alistair Begg example; Brian’s own 60+ plan)(35:55) Final exhortations: have a plan; others are affected by your decisions(36:28)

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