
Deb Liu spent years pitching Facebook Marketplace before anyone would greenlight it. When it finally launched, it took multiple failed versions before reaching a billion users. That arc — patient conviction, rapid testing, willingness to be wrong — is the throughline of everything she shares in this episode. From her time building payments at PayPal and ads at Facebook to leading Ancestry as CEO, Deb has operated at a level of scale most product leaders never reach. She breaks down what actually makes marketplaces work, why the transition from IC to manager breaks talented people, and what the CEO job demands that no one prepares you for. She also shares a sharp framework for how to think about AI adoption right now: we are, in her words, in the 1998 of the internet. A must-watch for product leaders, founders, and executives who want to build things that last — and lead teams that can actually get them there.
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