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Tom Rowland of Saltwater Experience Television finds interesting stories in Fishing, Hunting, Fitness and the Outdoors and brings them to you in ultra high-quality audio. Unhurried conversations with icons, up and comers and people doing amazing things outside.
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- 4 days ago54 min
Jill Christofferson & Sean Trindell | FWC’s Catch a Florida Memory | Ep. 1034
Jill Christopherson and Sean Trindell are the team behind FWC’s Catch a Florida Memory, the saltwater angler recognition program that rewards anglers for the fish they catch in Florida waters. There are 75 saltwater species on Florida’s life list, and in 10 years nobody has caught all of them. That’s the challenge Jill and Sean brought on the show. You don’t have to finish the list to get something out of it, though. Your first 10 fish earn you a T-shirt and a certificate, and a photo from years ago still counts, as long as you’re in it, the species is clear and the fish came from Florida waters. Before we recorded, I took them fishing in the Keys. Inshore, we went after the new Southern Inshore Slam: a snook, a redfish and a trout in 24 hours. The trout and redfish came easy. The snook did not. Between floating grass and dirty water, we fished for hours, and Sean lost a good one at the boat before he finally landed his first snook and finished the slam. The next day we went offshore with Jill. She caught her first cobia, and Sean landed a big blackfin tuna that I netted for him. That’s what I like about this program. It gives you something to chase. Maybe you’ve caught two kinds of snapper and you need one more for a slam. That changes your plan for the day and the mood on the boat, and it’s a great way to get kids learning fish ID. In this episode: How the Life List, Reel Big Fish and nine Grand Slam categories work Why catch-and-release counts, and when you need a measurement The quarterly Secret Fish riddles, plus one we try to solve on air The first Veterans Challenge, where the military branches compete for points More than 4,500 anglers and about 40,000 catches, all reviewed by hand Start your list at https://catchafloridamemory.com Questions or brand partnerships: anglerrecognition@myfwc.com We’ve completely redone the Tom Rowland Podcast website. Take a look and email me what you think at podcast@saltwaterexperience.com. #TomRowlandPodcast #CatchAFloridaMemory #FloridaFishing #SaltwaterFishing #FWC
- 2 weeks ago1h 13m
Bill Oyster & Capt. Rhett Morris | Oyster Bamboo Fly Rods | Ep. #1033
Bill Oyster of Oyster Bamboo Fly Rods and Capt. Rhett Morris join me for a story about craftsmanship, business, and one very hard-earned permit. Bill builds fly rods out of bamboo, a technology most anglers left behind decades ago. He had a four-year waiting list, but he was working until 3 AM seven days a week and realized he’d never make a middle-class income building rods. So he started teaching people to build their own. Today Oyster Bamboo runs 240 students a year through its classes, and the waitlist stretches two years out. Bill shares how one phone call from a determined wife led to his first student and why other rod makers warned him that teaching would put them all out of business. He also talks about building rods for President Carter and a royal wedding gift. Rhett walked into Bill’s shop by accident in Blue Ridge, Georgia, and ended up building a 10-weight bamboo rod he named “The Permit.” He tells the story of the three years it took to land a permit on that rod and why it meant more than any fish he’s caught. Learn more and get on the class waitlist at oysterbamboo.com
- 3 weeks ago1h 8m
Jaclyn Lunaas and Chris Macaluso | Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership | Ep. 1032
One company owned by Canada’s Cooke Inc. is catching about 70% of all the Atlantic menhaden that can legally be harvested. The fish we love to chase depend on that bait to survive: striped bass, tarpon, redfish, cobia, king mackerel, and bluefin tuna all rely on menhaden, and so do ospreys and whales. I sat down with Chris Macaluso and Jaclyn Lunaas of the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership (TRCP) to find out how this works. They explain how Virginia ended up with 75% of the coast-wide quota, and how a leasing loophole lets a foreign-owned company fish under an American flag. We also cover the Louisiana bycatch study, which estimated that 140 to 160 million additional fish are killed in a single Gulf season, including about 30,000 redfish and 250,000 speckled trout. We get into the science too. Regulators found that the Atlantic menhaden population had been overestimated by about 40%. The science called for a cut of more than 50%, but the commission took only a 20% cut for 2026. In the Gulf, Louisiana and Mississippi have no catch limits at all. Most importantly, Chris and Jaclyn explain what you can do about it, even if you never catch a striped bass in your life. Learn more and sign the petition: trcp.org/foragefishrecovery Chapters 00:00 One company is catching most of the menhaden 01:04 Meet Chris Macaluso & Jaclyn Lunaas of TRCP 05:20 Why menhaden are “the most important fish in the sea” 06:54 The reduction industry: fish meal, fish oil & pet food 09:22 Migration and the predators that follow menhaden 11:26 Pogey boats, spotter planes & the Gulf bycatch study 16:01 Warning signs in the Chesapeake Bay 20:18 Striped bass as the yardstick 22:01 The most efficient fishery there is 25:34 The ask: lower the quota and reallocate it 27:55 The 40% overestimate and the 2026 quota cut 29:59 How Virginia got 75% of the quota 33:30 Why other states banned reduction boats 37:31 The foreign-ownership loophole 40:20 The Gulf’s “Wild Wild West”: no catch limits 45:20 Ecology vs. economics and king mackerel 49:51 How do you count a bait fish? 54:58 Tarpon, redfish & the all-you-can-eat buffet 58:32 What anglers can do to help 1:02:06 Lessons from Captains for Clean Water 1:06:15 How to get involved #menhaden #stripedbass #fishingconservation #tarpon #redfish #TomRowlandPodcast
- Oct 6, 20261h 11m
Dane Sanders | Men and Women of Discomfort | Ep. 1031
Full Article on Tomrowlandpodcast.com Episode Description - Most people drift their way into worse health, weaker relationships, and a life they don’t recognize. Dane Sanders says the answer isn’t another burst of motivation—it’s an operating system for becoming stronger in the middle of real life. Tom Rowland sits down with Dane, founder of Men and Women of Discomfort (MWOD), for a conversation about why voluntary discomfort matters, how drift quietly erodes your gains, and why the hardest parts of life are often the ones that change you most. If you’ve ever started strong on a challenge, a fitness plan, or a personal reset—only to watch it fade—this episode will hit close to home. Visit The Website: https://www.mwod.io/ You’ll discover: Why Dane says MWOD is more than a challenge—and how it differs from programs built around a finish line The difference between the drift and the storm, and why both are inevitable How MWOD uses daily check-ins, weekly challenges, and a 12-week cadence to build momentum The CREDO framework: commit, release, embrace, define, and own it Why discomfort doesn’t have to be physical to be transformational How a challenge called Ghostbusters helped people pursue forgiveness, reconnection, and meaningful conversations Dane also shares how MWOD began with his friend Tim Kruger. Tim’s battle with cancer brought home a powerful idea: practice voluntary discomfort before involuntary discomfort chooses you. That became a turning point—transforming a fitness experiment into a lasting philosophy about faith, purpose, and becoming the kind of person who can handle what comes next. This conversation goes far beyond workouts. It’s about identity, belonging, resilience, and the small choices that shape your future—whether in your health, relationships, work, faith, or the conversations you’ve been avoiding. Dane Sanders is the founder of Men and Women of Discomfort, a community built around deliberate discomfort, accountability, and sustainable growth. The goal: to become strong and awake for love’s sake. If you’re tired of starting over and ready to build something that lasts, this conversation is for you. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Men and Women of Discomfort challenge 02:21 What is the challenge and how does it differ from a traditional challenge 04:18 Discomfort as an operating system for life 09:17 The storms and drift of being human 11:45 The concept of anti-fragility and resilience 16:44 The story of Tim and the discovery of the challenge's purpose 21:28 How the program is structured and what participants do 24:53 The Ghostbusters challenge and calling out personal ghosts 27:47 Stacking wins and momentum in discomfort 32:24 The evolution of the challenge into an operating system 37:42 Most difficult challenge and lessons learned 38:07 The concept of Masogi and high-risk, high-reward challenges 39:32 Personal stories of endurance and discomfort 43:49 Uncovering hidden discomforts in daily life 49:35 The power of small daily improvements 54:34 The CREDO process: Commit, Release, Embrace, Own 01:03:17 Final thoughts on discomfort and transformation
- Sep 30, 20261h 13m
Pat Barber | "The Fathers Guild" | Ep. 1030
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- Sep 22, 20261h 6m
Jere Hartman | "RangeOars Row" | Ep. 1029
Jere Hartman spent 19 years in the Army, including time as an Army Ranger, then went straight into the FBI's Terrorist Screening Center. Two years later he'd put on 50 pounds and was spending his nights sitting in the dark. So he walked into his performance review and resigned. What came next was a six-month thru-hike of the Appalachian Trail (trail name: Clincher, and he'll tell you why). Ten years later, he answered a Facebook post in the Ranger community and signed on to row across the Pacific Ocean. In this episode, Jere and I talk about: Why leaving a structured military life with no transition nearly broke him Trail magic, trail families, and what the AT gave him that he didn't expect Rowing from Monterey to Kauai in 35 days with a five-man crew in the World's Toughest Row Keeping the boat's water maker alive after it broke on day three Riding out 30-foot seas at night in a rowboat, and the crew pact that "it's 100% or we don't make that decision" Weeks of glowing phosphorescence, hundreds of dolphins, and a pint of rum split five ways Corsair Racing, the nonprofit he helped build to get veterans out on the ocean, and the crew now training for a 3,000-mile Atlantic row from La Gomera to Antigua Coaching CrossFit in Chattanooga, and why he believes it's for everyone, no matter how beat up you are Support Corsair Racing: https://corsairracing.org This episode is brought to you by Star brite, makers of Salt Off and a full line of boat-care products, and a company that invests heavily in conservation. Check them out at https://www.starbrite.com 🎙 Subscribe to the Tom Rowland Podcast for more conversations with people doing extraordinary things. #TomRowlandPodcast #OceanRowing #Veterans #AppalachianTrail #ArmyRanger #WorldsToughestRow #CrossFit
- Sep 16, 20261h 24m
Rhett Morris | Beyond Borders Outfitters | Ep. 1028
Captain Rhett Morris of morefishflorida.com has guided the greater Charlotte Harbor area for three decades — and he kept a catch log almost every day of it. That data now tells a story the numbers on Florida's coast are backing up: a steady, decades-long decline in snook, redfish, and trout that's accelerated since the mid-2000s. In this episode, Rhett walks Tom through what his records reveal, what actually caused the collapse (the record-shattering 2018 red tide, the nitrogen overload, and the algae that smothered the seagrass), and why Hurricane Milton turned out to be one of the best things to happen to the fishery in years. Then he lays out his proposal: treat Charlotte Harbor as a test zone, change the redfish and snook slot limits, and let the fishery become its own hatchery. It's not a mandate — it's the start of a conversation, and it comes with a real economic case for why even the developers should care. If it resonates, there's a petition at morefishflorida.com. As Rhett says, sharing it may matter even more than signing it. 👉 Sign & share the petition: https://morefishflorida.com This episode is brought to you by Star brite — makers of Salt Off and a full line of boat-care products, and a company that puts real effort into conservation. Check them out. CHAPTERS 00:00 Intro & Star brite 00:47 Meet Capt. Rhett Morris 02:00 Bowhunting turkeys & the confiscated African poacher's bow 04:30 Growing up in Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe) 06:30 Landing in Florida & a biologist father 07:30 Quail hunting, bird dogs & vanishing habitat 12:30 How his dad's record-keeping shaped him 15:00 30 years of catch data — the decline 20:00 The bait situation 21:00 The record-breaking 2018 red tide 28:00 Seagrass loss & the algae that smothered the flats 32:00 How Hurricane Milton helped 37:30 The fix: rethinking slot limits 40:00 The redfish proposal (25–27") 44:00 The snook proposal & 75 billion eggs 47:30 Why the FWC hasn't acted 49:00 Charlotte Harbor as a test zone 54:00 The economic case — $497M and thousands of jobs 1:06:00 Where to sign: morefishflorida.com 1:07:00 The closure data that proves the point 1:11:00 A guide's responsibility & catch-and-release 1:20:00 Wrap-up & call to action 1:21:00 Next week: a bamboo fly rod & a permit #TomRowlandPodcast #Fishing #Snook #Redfish #CharlotteHarbor #Conservation #FloridaFishing
- Sep 9, 20261h 11m
David Moss | The Nature Conservancy | Ep. 1027
Red snapper season in the South Atlantic got shut down the night before it opened — and most anglers still don't really know why. In this one, I sit down with David Moss, Fisheries Project Manager for The Nature Conservancy, to break the whole thing down in plain English: what an EFP actually is, the lawsuit that closed the season, why managers and anglers see two completely different oceans, and the surprising reason keeping your spots secret might be the very thing costing you fishing days. David's a Florida-born fisherman first and a fisheries guy second, and he makes the case for why the catch data you throw away — including the days you get skunked — is exactly what the fishery needs to open more seasons, not fewer. We get into: Why red snapper are stacked up in the Atlantic but you can't keep one How "rare event species" like tilefish and snowy grouper get shortchanged by old data The truth about whether your secret numbers are actually safe in reporting apps Gulf vs. Atlantic red snapper — two fisheries, same fish The Goliath grouper problem everyone sees but no one can prove How to actually get involved if you're fed up Get in touch or get involved: David Moss — david.moss@tnc.org The Nature Conservancy Florida fishing: nature.org/floridafishing Reporting apps mentioned: iAngler, Got One, MyFWC, Vessel Councils: South Atlantic Fishery Management Council, Gulf of America Fishery Management Council, FWC Also mentioned: Angler Action Foundation, West Palm Beach Fishing Club Brought to you by Star brite — makers of Salt Off and a full line of boat care products, and a company doing real work in conservation. starbrite.com Chapters: 00:00 – Intro & catching up (mangroves, lobster mini season) 02:20 – What The Nature Conservancy actually does 04:30 – Red snapper: what happened and why the season closed 07:30 – EFPs explained in plain terms + the lawsuit 10:00 – Three states reapply — what a real season could look like 12:00 – App-based reporting and the data managers need 14:00 – Discards, barotrauma & why released fish still count 15:30 – Deep-water "rare event species" & TNC's pilot project 17:30 – "Why should I give them my data?" — the honest answer 23:00 – How catch data gets collected now (dock surveys & mail-in) 25:30 – Do the apps work offshore? Are your spots protected? 33:30 – Gulf vs. Atlantic red snapper 37:00 – ACLs, sectors & how commercial reporting works 40:00 – How David got hooked on fisheries management 44:00 – The Goliath grouper problem 47:30 – How to get involved (councils, clubs, public comment) 51:00 – Soccer, family & a coaching detour 54:30 – From landscaping to The Nature Conservancy 59:00 – The one message: your information matters 1:04:30 – Secret spots, hunters vs. anglers & sharing data 1:09:30 – Wrap-up & resources
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