Jon Heder Remembers Napoleon Dynamite, His Kanye Jay Z Collab and Challenges Matt on Nation’s Dumbest

 Actor Jon Heder joins the show to talk with Matt Leinart and Jerry Ferrara about his time alongside Matt on Fox’s new reality game show Nation’s Dumbest. Heder tells the guys what got him to join the show, what were his worst subjects, how it was getting to know the cast and compete against them. Plus, Matt gives Jon a little impromptu trivia on his worst subject: Sports. Then Jon talks his star turn as Napoleon Dynamite, how the movie’s success mirrors that of 2026 hits like Obsession and Backrooms and what it’s like to get back into that character. Finally, Jon talks his infamous collab with Kanye and Jay Z and his latest films Waltzing with Brando and Tapawingo, before Jerry has his own round of trivia.   A big thank you to our sponsors:   BetMGM: Make It Legendary. Please gamble responsibly. Download the BetMGM App to get started.    NHTSA: This Moment. Speeding Catches up With You. Paid for by NHTSA. http://www.nhtsa.gov/risky-driving/speeding   Uncrustables: Uncrustables sandwiches are ready from your fridge!      00:00 Show open  01:43 Matt talks the Nation’s Dumbest Premiere  04:35 NHTSA Speed: Matt’s longest runs  07:30 Jon Heder joins the show  10:50 Why did Jon sign up for Nation’s Dumbest  12:25 What were Jon’s best and worst subjects?   14:30 Recap of the first episode of Nation’s Dumbest  17:33 The difference between filming movies and a reality game show  20:35 Matt quizzes Jon on sports  28:48 The origins of Napoleon Dynamite  32:26 How Napoleon Dynamite paved the way for Obsession and Backrooms  35:23 Jon’s reaction to Napoleon Dynamite box office  38:50 Jerry learned the Napoleon Dynamite dance for an audition   41:18 Jerry’s Argentia – Spain pick  42:20 Jon improvised the famous Napoleon Dynamite dance scene  45:05 Jon on getting back into character for a commercial and Cameos  47:20 On being featured on “Ninjas” In Paris by Kanye and Jay Z  51:00 Matt gives Jerry his own Nation’s Dumbest quiz  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices