This American Life

882: Give a Little Whistle

March 8, 2026·1h 2m·7-min readnarrativenews
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This episode of This American Life reveals a systemic breakdown within U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) through the testimonies of two whistleblowers: Ryan Schwenk, an ICE attorney, and Julie Lee, a government lawyer. Their accounts expose a training program stripped of co

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Ryan Schwank

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Ryan SchwankJulie LeeOscarEric Glass

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Criminal JusticeImmigrationUs Politics

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