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by Mannah Guldager
Therapeutic Astrology Podcast by Mannah (TAP) is a place to hang out with the mystery of life, of you, pointed to by the forgotten languages of the soul. We are at the intersection of modern psychology, trauma healing, and inner awakening - with astrology as my foundational perspective. I'm Mannah, an eternal student, but with a neurodivergent brain (and no earth in my chart) I'm better at interviewing my teachers than sitting still in a classroom. I seek to inspire you through my explorative conversations with therapists, authors, healers, creatives, and thought leaders of our time. In common, my variety of guests all counter the fragmented modern lives in one way or another. Where some engage in an embodied spiritual life, others bring researched information to help us understand the nuances of this magical living nature we are in. A note on the Astrology in "Therapeutic Astrology Podcast" Once in a while, I speak to fellow "therapeutic astrologers," and we nerd out on how to combine astrology and therapy in practice, but most of this podcast is interviews with authors who are not that into astrology themselves. The name is based on my preference of combining trauma therapy with ancient wisdom, and the fact that in each episode I spend a few moments tapping into my guest's birth chart and relate it to our conversation. I just think astrology should somehow be part of all conversations but not through just talking about it, words can be so limiting, rather, as a cosmological way of sensing into the extraordinary depth of our shared human experience. My language is Evolutionary Astrology, and that is a great fit to modern trauma healing understandings. Let's TAP in together - no matter where you are at in life, you have a place to call Whole. Mannah, Interviewer & Therapeutic Astrologer Copenhagen, May of 2023
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- 1 weeks ago54 min
#175 - Dr. Amber Elizabeth Gray: "It's Not a Method, It's a Message" – Polyvagal-Informed Restorative Movement Psychotherapy - Roots, Rhythm, and Reciprocity
"For many survivors of trauma, even if they are not geographically displaced, they describe being displaced from their body, that is, it no longer feels like it is their body. This is the ongoing assault of the exposure channeled through the ANS, our body, and its movement that protectively tells us we are still not safe. This can feel like internal oppression, and this is amplified for those living in ongoing oppression. For this, and for our clients, movement initiates the path to liberation." * YOU WILL BE MOVED when you meet Dr. Amber Elizabeth Gray who is a somatic psychotherapist, dance/movement therapist and human rights psychotherapist. She founded one of the first refugee mental health programs in the United States and teaches, supervises and mentors internationally - and in this interview she shares insights from her new book, that may go under the name: "Roots, Rhythm, and Reciprocity" - And I'd even say she REDEFINES therapy! Get ready to restore and resist! DO tap in with us in this very rich and way too short interview, when we speak about: – Why "restorative process" instead of "trauma recovery" Survivors seldom recover everything! -Trauma and resilience being connected – The autonomic nervous system is always "championing our survival" and how painful patterns are imprints of the states we survived through!! -RELATIVE safety -The gift of evolution and restorative patterns that can soften - What is means that this book is "a living document" - The human story is movement! - Stuckness is a defining feature of trauma, so the work and the theory have to keep moving too! – Clients as the experts -Belonging and dignity – Displacement from our own body. Every trauma carries a sense of displacement and the feeling of going "crazy" – Diagnoses as shared experience! – Yield, a concept that comes from Bonnie Bainbridge Cohen's Body-Mind Centering - Reciprocal alliance rather than therapeutic alliance -"Oppressors always target the body"- Our bodies and our movement are how we are controlled. Reclaiming them is restoration, reclamation and RESISTANCE – This last part about resistance takes us into the astrology, where I highlight Amber's Uranus signature: her personal fulfillment is bound up with elevating the human spirit collectively -and taking care of true friendships. As she says: "We're not here just for ourselves, we're here for each other." I really hope you enjoyed this as much as me - check out the links and share this episode with anyone interested in therapy and healing LINKS: the book we speak about: https://a.co/d/00kizWWe Dr. Amber Gray: https://ambergray.com/ Mannah: https://www.therapeuticastrologer.com/ youtube: https://youtu.be/Hxs804020WE *The quote is from Dr. Amber Elizabeth Gray, "Polyvagal-Informed Restorative Movement Psychotherapy: Roots, Rhythm, and Reciprocity" (W. W. Norton), Chapter 3, "Trauma and the Moving Body"
- 2 weeks ago59 min
#174 - Maja D'Aoust: Shadow Seer Tarot - Illuminate the Shadows in Your Life Through Tarot & Darchetypes
"Shadow is a many-headed hydra, and maybe we can finally admit that persecuting or punishing individuals publicly who we deem guilty of shadow behavior will not eradicate shadow from humanity. How many bodies will be thrown into the volcano in sacrifice before we can make some evolution in the shadow realms that plague us all? We think we can shame shadow out of existence with righteousness, but feeding shame to shadow is nourishment for it, makes it strong and vindicates it." Quote from my guest today, author, practicing Witch and scholar of alchemy and occult lore, Maja D'Aoust, who is with me for the second time. Last time we spoke about her most recent book, "Astrology of the Shadow Self" and this time we talk about her very special Tarot cards: "Shadow Seer Tarot". Tap in with us as we speak about: -The Cannibal mother archetype -The transpersonal view when drawing tarot cards -Understanding the shadow as a collective phenomenon -The Three of Pentacles as "The Cult " forgroupthink, manipulation, charismatic leaders, and toxic leadership -The Fool as "Hubris" which relates to Norse mythology and humiliation to gain power -The Magician as "The Manipulator" that relates in darchetype magic, free will, and the ethics of influencing others -How to use the Shadow Tarot for example alongside traditional tarot cards and what to ask when drawing cards -Self-sabotage and the creator–destroyer dynamic within human nature -Destructive and self-serving impulses and good inclination; our constructive and moral impulses -The Page of Cups as "The Con Man" that reltes to emotional manipulation and hidden intentions -The Knight of Wands as "The Abandoner" as fear of commitment -Projections -A live tarot reading on the collective shadow of humanity's spiritual awakening -Mary, Mary Magdalene, Isis, and the goddess archetype across different traditions -What triggers shadow behavior and how it goes back to the need to survive -The symbolism of hands, prehistoric cave paintings, and our ancestral shadows -How helping others can transform suffering from isolation into connection -MAN in HU-MAN explained -Maja's personal story of losing her home in the 2025 Los Angeles wildfires, including a prophetic dream the night before!!! and why this is literally a deck of shadows !! -Saturn-Moon and emotional maturity -How archetypes can help us move beyond our personal stories and understand our experiences within a larger human narrative Thank you for being with us in this darchetypes time and a callback to our ancestors! We sure got a lot in this one, I hope you take it with you -Mannah LINKS: Here are the cards we talk about: https://www.innertraditions.com/shadow-seer-tarot Maja: https://www.witchofthedawn.com/ Mannah: https://www.therapeuticastrologer.com/ youtube link: https://youtu.be/nqgFbjB_XdA and the first interview with Maja, you can find here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XihPW3VDOwo
- 4 weeks ago1h 10m
#173 - Bryan De Justin: Tarot & the Unconscious: A Freudian Perspective - Tarot Psychology
"Mythology, resistant to time and age, has long instructed humanity in the ancient truths of life's mysteries. The Tarot, as a mythology of human existence, is no different. Mythology, within a psychotherapeutic framework, functions through personification." ... "The use of the Tarot in therapy is therefore parallel to the use of projective tests such as the Thematic Apperception Test. The Tarot arguably holds an advantage over the TAT in that it is inherently encoded with cultural, psychological, and philosophical symbolism." (Quotes from Bryan De Justin's book, the focus of this episode.) Excited by these quotes? So am I!! Join me for a rich conversation with author, life coach and hypnotherapist Bryan De Justin as we speak about: -What is Tarot Psychology? -The psychology of our species -Projections in Tarot and mythology to engage with it -Our different bodies and their perspective -Symbolic thinking -What a Freudian perspective in this case means -Hypnotic portals ! -How the Gods are US -The Imaginal Symbol Induction Technique -Eye fascination -The most important number three !!! and what it represents and how 3 is the basis of our psychology -Unmet develpmental needs and how to use tarot for that -Engaging with the unconscious -and not to let other's unconscious effect your interpretation -The importance of the therapist's own journey with the tarot -The hidden warning in each card -Tarot is myth and it explains us -Psychological unity -Involuntary celibate -The upsurge of the Demiurge -Chiron in sagittarius (remember, we only touch on a few key points, there are many more meanings to such an archetype) -I also mention the generation that Bryan belongs to, and I love how he also reminds us of the shadow side of uranus in aqurius -being super intelligent yes, but there are real challenges in too high a mind, that is not embodied like the challenges we see in AI. I hope you enjoy this, TRULY RICH interview, but just one last wonderful quote from Bryans book: "The foundational premise of all psychoanalytic psychotherapy is that the unconscious knows all that consciousness does not. If one cannot accept this (as many cannot), then one cannot accept psychoanalysis at all. The fact remains that there are deep and repressed aspects of the human being that are as dark and minacious as the profundity of the sea. These aspects exist within all individuals, and it is one of the chief tasks of life to venture into the darkness of the earth in order to confront the darkness within oneself and emerge transformed." Thank you for being with us! Stay transformed till next time. -Mannah LINKS: the book we speak on today: https://a.co/d/00HTEGnN Bryan: https://www.bryandejustincoaching.com Mannah: https://www.therapeuticastrologer.com/ Youtube edition: https://youtu.be/9lt-Nd4Kcc0
- Oct 5, 202651 min
#172 - Kristin Fontana: Amazon Rising: Awakening the Wild Feminine
"The Soul must gradually strip away the armor of perceived safety—the identities, defenses, and strategies formed under threat, and risk becoming essential once again. Vulnerable. Present. Alive." This is a quote from my guest in this episode- I speak with Kristin Fontana, Evolutionary Astrologer and teacher at the School of Evolutionary Astrology, about her new book "Amazon Rising: Awakening the Wild Feminine", 2026. I must say a very inspiring book!! The Amazon is the female expression of the Warrior Archetype, and in the birth chart the asteroid Amazone (#1042) marks the place where courage is summoned. We talk about the Amazon as a an archetype, what it means to live FULLY, and the spear that can never be broken! Tap in with us as we explore: -Easter Sunday 1999: Pluto transiting Kristin's Sagittarius stellium& Jeffrey Wolf Green's Saturn lecture on natural versus conditioned Saturn, and the day she "died" -This Amazon activating dormant courage in us -Deconditioning from lifetimes of hiding and running -Daemon Souls and living in harmony with nature -Mars and Amazone: why all Amazons are a Pluto–Mars culture -Natural guilt versus learned guilt: Saturn in Pisces squaring the nodes, Joan of Arc, and centuries in hiding -The body remembers: cellular memory -The evolutionary states - What it is to be WILD -Not all spears are meant for battle!!! -The body and the Amazon's natural sexuality: open, unlocked, following desire -Desire as the voice of the Soul: Mars as the younger brother of Pluto -Uranus as "he soul's vibration, but also all the memories that are held in the cells that allow for the vibration of who you are. It reflects your song, your signal, your radio signal" -Sexuality and pushing limits -Stripping down conditioning -Collectively we have Venus retrograde in Scorpio, which is about choosing to culminate or continue relationships -How Kristin became a writer: Pluto in the 3rd house, writing from the emotional body rather than the head, and her first astrology column -The spear can never be broken: like the Soul, it can be set down, but it is always waiting for our return ! LINKS: Kristin Fontana: https://kristinfontana.com/ the book: https://a.co/d/061Y5vRL Mannah: https://www.therapeuticastrologer.com/ youtube version: https://youtu.be/BkoDWBtH_Go
- Sep 27, 202650 min
#171 - Death Charts & Twin Loss - Moon Zlotnik - An Astrological Tool for the Bereaved
Astrologer Linda "Moon Rabbit" Zlotnik has practiced astrology since 1975. When her identical twin, Lou Ann, died in 2005, Moon cast a chart for the moment of her sister's last breath, and a decade of healing and study led her to devote her work to death charts and the bereaved. For Moon, the death chart is a special gift to those left behind: commonly thought of as an ending, it becomes a different kind of beginning!! In this episode we talk about her new book "Death Charts: An Astrological Tool for the Bereaved" - TAP in with us as we explore: -How astrology can help the bereaved see the cosmic role their particular loss plays -The therapeutic and healing dimension of death chart work -The importance of grief -Why guilt so often accompanies loss -Leaning into being EVEN MORE ALIVE after losing your twin -How birth charts hint at the most profound losses we will face, through a symbolism that is cosmic and free of judgment -Life as a labyrinth: the astrological cycles that represent lessons -Eclipses as a key to death charts: how they work differently from transits, and how the Solar Eclipses before and after a death speak to the natal chart of the one left behind -Being aligned with the death -EXIT POINTS -when the soul choses to leave All of this points to that astrology has a lot to offer people who are grieving... Thank you for being with us for this sensitive topic LINKS the book we speak of: https://a.co/d/0cWqNOGu Moon: https://astrologybymoonrabbit.com/ Mannah: https://www.therapeuticastrologer.com/ youtube edition: https://youtu.be/xURAMzcIMzk
- Sep 20, 202657 min
#170 - Redwood Naragon on the Nodes of Pluto - Our Collective Evolutionary Path
Evolutionary astrologer Redwood Naragon joins me to talk about the collective planetary nodes, a speciality he has develop into over many years, inspired by Jeffrey Wolfgreen and the EA School. Here you will hear Redwoods take on what the nodes say about the evolutionary direction of humanity as a whole. We start with the nodes of Pluto, to align with the EA Pluto Paradigm. From there Redwood alo goes into Venus–Uranus nodal conjunction, which carries the long arc of literacy, trade, technology and travel, and alongside it the recurring experience of social alienation, cultural outcast patterns, and migration. TAP in with us as we look into: -Honoring the original teachings while expanding them -The meaning of the cancer archetype, to be full of care for one -Individuating souls who no longer feel at home in their own land -How the nodes of planet work and how Plutos point to a certain crisis -The exact conjunction of the 1330s bringing shipbuilding and the plague -The arc of Venus-Uranus-Gemini for connecting and instant messaging and social disruption -Nodes of Uranus into sag -gemini leading to spiritual traditions in written form -The risk of climate displacement- the risk of becoming a refugee -The extreme of unequal exchange In the end I felt we spoke so much astrology, that I'd rather know about Redwood's own life philosophy !! This is a conversation to be continued...Meanwhile, check the links: LINKS: Check Redwood here: https://www.redwoodnaragon.com/ the messageboard thread we mention: https://eaforum.schoolofevolutionaryastrology.com/index.php/topic,6.15.html Mannah: https://www.therapeuticastrologer.com/ youtube link: https://youtu.be/zmKw-xnGCpI
- Sep 12, 202658 min
#169 - Jessica Fern & David Cooley: Consensual & Ethical Non-Monogamy - Navigating Open Relationships
"The further we step outside the constructs of monogamy, the more we inevitably come to see our relationships through new eyes, and sometimes we may not like what we see. Whether you are brand new to CNM, or have been living some form of it for years, the changes that come as you or your partner develop new relationships can radically alter your life in unpredictable ways. For many, the changes that CNM can bring act like a pressure cooker, heating things up and bringing to the surface all kinds of feelings, issues, and dynamics that you were potentially never aware of, such as unprocessed trauma, unresolved ruptures, power imbalances, lingering resentments, poor communication habits, codependency, or even deal-breaking incompatibilities. As CNM forces us to confront some of the exposed cracks in the foundation of our relationships, it can be helpful to remember they are not necessarily the result of personal shortcomings on our part, but often the remnants of relational dynamics that were most likely masked by the closed container of monogamy, or the ostensible security of more hierarchical polyamory." Quote from Polywise, 2023, written by my guests today. Jessica Fern is a psychotherapist and Certified Clinical Trauma Professional, and the author of "Polysecure" from 2020. David Cooley is a restorative justice facilitator and the creator of the Restorative Relationship Conversation Process. Together they wrote "Polywise" in 2023 and "Transforming the Shame Triangle" in 2026 I feel this interview about different factors in consensual non-monogamy (CNM) is so important, because I personally think we are living through a major relational shift due to the ways we can now connect, and in the ways we are now able to see beyond what's considered normal and accept more diversity. This is about how we live with each other, and how we are able to love within different structures. And I'm telling you: as a Pluto in Scorpio gen, it is so refreshing to hear information that dismantles the marriage ideal I was never able to live up to, and yet for any gen it is "a painful process of releasing your attachment to a relationship that can no longer give you either what you need or what they want and what they need".. That's me personally, referring to PolyWise - what about you? I hope you enjoy this one as we speak of: How we are swimming in the paradigm of monogamy Love is infinite. And yet, attachment isn't !!! Attachment as a choice rather than an accident The many shapes of CNM could be hierarchical and non-hierarchical polyamory, solo polyamory, swinging, and Life partners where you are formerly married, now sharing a home - how does a new partner fit into that?? For who does it in monogamy "feel like they're dying"? Legislation making polyamorous people a protected class Relational intelligence !! Quite a bit more!!! In this episode we basically go from the books PolySecure & PolyWise to Transforming the Shame Triangle. As we learn throughout there are several links from the work with parts to CNM, in Polywise Jessica Fern also uses the parts-work approach to explore why CNM can activate such strong emotional reactions. Parts that react on CNM may be: a child part afraid of being abandoned or having its needs unmet a hurt part carrying experiences of betrayal or infidelity a competitive part afraid of being replaced a "princess" part wanting to be the only special person a critical part that distrusts non-monogamy altogether insecure parts that fear not being enough The parts are trying to protect important needs for safety, attachment, love, recognition, choice, and belonging. Now in Jessica and Davids latest book: "Transforming the Shame Triangle: From Shame to Love Using Parts Work" this way of relating to yourself is even further explained, and giving voice to shame and the possible transformation process, which we also touch on in this interview. Let's continue the conversation on alternative relating!! Many of us have embraced this multiplicity of the mind as it works wonders therapeutically - but then what about in our interpersonal relationships, could open relationship help us heal? -Mannah LINKS: view it on <a href= "h
- Sep 4, 20261h 26m
#168 - Joseph Pawson: Dependency and Denial - The Stories That Divide Us
"When our cries go unanswered, we find ourselves having to shout louder. It is easy to see how these attempts to be praised can be misread and labelled incorrectly as arrogance, misbehavior, or being a show-off. As a result, it may feel as if we are being told that our need for mirroring is in some way bad or wrong. In being misunderstood, our developmental needs can be misconstrued, and a distorted story may be told about who we are. Sadly, we often internalize these stories and labels and, in doing so, inadvertently deny and exile the vulnerability of our own needs. Misunderstandings of this nature occur not only during our development, but also in our daily lives." Just one of the MANY great quotes from my psychotherapist -guest today, Joe Pawson, from his book "Dependency and Denial: The Stories That Divide Us" (Karnac, 2026) This became a deep conversation about how we NEED each other. And in a culture that idealizes self-sufficiency, our dependency, our need for others, becomes something we exile and DENY. Joe Pawson talks about how the stories we create protect us from pain, but also separate us, separation from each other and from ourselves. He is excellent with words (AND EMPATHY), so slow everything down and go into a reflective space with us as we talk about: Why our connection to each other can be both the source of our wounds and part of the remedy Anxious and avoidant attachment, and what may exist underneath the attachment styles themselves How falling in love reactivates some of our earliest hopes, fears and developmental wounds Denial as a way of creating maps and stories that make life, pain and trauma more manageable How we can internalize the message that our needs are too much, silly, weak or unwanted The moments in therapy where a client begins to become vulnerable and then suddenly interrupts, minimizes or dismisses their own experience - before the therapist does (?!) We have a long segment on denial in therapy setting- and also we come to talk about the therapist's own vulnerability, the willingness wo be in the unknown How TRAGIC misunderstandings happen when we cannot see the vulnerability underneath another person's behavior Projected vulnerability and what happens as when we see what is ours in other people Buddhist ideas of interdependence, the illusion of a completely separate self and the difficulty of seeing beyond the maps through which we understand reality The idea that the key to reconnecting with greater wholeness may lie precisely in the vulnerabilities we have abandoned THEN I look at Joe's huge Cancer energy and in particular I say something about Mars in Cancer, and we explore Mars as the warrior who can protect vulnerability and tender places- It goes into his relationship to politics and ability to stay with the larger picture rather than concrete and limiting solutions. -IN THE VERY END I challenge Joe to come up with a good not activating ending, as we talk about goodbyes in therapy. I hope you will love this! I have had the book with me all summer and have just enjoyed reading it slowly, taking in his beautifully put words and feeling into my own huge longing for more closeness in this world. PS another quote: "Breaking down can become breaking through when there is someone there to hold us - as we fall apart" !! -Mannah LINKS: the book: https://www.karnacbooks.com/product/dependency-and-denial-the-stories-that-divide-us/98431/ my guest: https://www.jppsychotherapy.co.uk/ myself: https://www.therapeuticastrologer.com/ youtube edition: https://youtu.be/S51zXfhXvU4 my preferred place to listen: https://podimo.com/s/m8a0anov
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About Therapeutic Astrology Podcast
Therapeutic Astrology Podcast by Mannah (TAP) is a place to hang out with the mystery of life, of you, pointed to by the forgotten languages of the soul. We are at the intersection of modern psychology, trauma healing, and inner awakening - with astrology as my foundational perspective. I'm Mannah, an eternal student, but with a neurodivergent brain (and no earth in my chart) I'm better at interviewing my teachers than sitting still in a classroom. I seek to inspire you through my explorative conversations with therapists, authors, healers, creatives, and thought leaders of our time. In common, my variety of guests all counter the fragmented modern lives in one way or another. Where some engage in an embodied spiritual life, others bring researched information to help us understand the nuances of this magical living nature we are in. A note on the Astrology in "Therapeutic Astrology Podcast" Once in a while, I speak to fellow "therapeutic astrologers," and we nerd out on how to combine astrology and therapy in practice, but most of this podcast is interviews with authors who are not that into astrology themselves. The name is based on my preference of combining trauma therapy with ancient wisdom, and the fact that in each episode I spend a few moments tapping into my guest's birth chart and relate it to our conversation. I just think astrology should somehow be part of all conversations but not through just talking about it, words can be so limiting, rather, as a cosmological way of sensing into the extraordinary depth of our shared human experience. My language is Evolutionary Astrology, and that is a great fit to modern trauma healing understandings. Let's TAP in together - no matter where you are at in life, you have a place to call Whole. Mannah, Interviewer & Therapeutic Astrologer Copenhagen, May of 2023
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