
This week on The Vertical Buzz, Season 2 kicks off with the person who helped legitimize the vertical space in Los Angeles. Host Buzz Leer sits down with Tina Contogenis, founder of Eris Talent Agency, to break down why vertical is no longer a trend, how the money and views proved the model, and what actors need to understand if they want to compete in the fastest-growing lane of entertainment. Tina shares the moment she realized actors were earning real money, how Eris built the first agency division focused specifically on vertical content, and what has changed as the space matures from Wild West chaos into a structured marketplace. They also get into what casting is actually prioritizing right now, why vertical is becoming a smarter path than traditional TV for many performers, and what the next wave looks like as AI, deepfakes, and new laws start to collide with talent rights. The episode includes rapid fire takes, must-watch apps, Eris's strict “no assholes” policy, and a day-in-the-life look at what a modern talent agency is juggling with the vertical boom. In this episode, you will learn: • Why Season 2 is about defining the space, not just discovering it • What the first vertical wakeup moment looked like from an agent’s perspective • How views and money proved vertical is an industry, not an experiment • What changed from the early Wild West days to today’s more structured ecosystem • What casting looks for right now, including pace, looks, and versatility • Why vertical wins for working actors, and how to build a real vertical strategy • Must-watch vertical apps and where the best opportunities are heading • The “no assholes” policy and why set culture matters more than ever • AI threats, deepfakes, and what new law is trying to do about it • The future of vertical economics, rates, and how the space may evolve next Chapters 00:00 Season Two Begins 00:47 Vertical Revolution 01:48 Industry Gets Real 02:57 Meet Tina Aris 04:57 First Vertical Wakeup 06:57 Views Money Proof 08:59 From Wild West 21:18 Casting Looks Talent 26:04 Sponsor Break 27:05 Why Vertical Wins 37:32 Rapid Fire Takes 38:34 Must Watch Vertical Apps 39:50 No Assholes Policy 40:59 AI Threats Ahead 42:36 Deepfakes And New Law 45:09 Future Of Vertical Economics 51:00 Tina Agent Origin Story 52:51 Aris Entertainment Expansion 56:03 Boundaries Intimacy Negotiations 01:01:51 Day In The Life Wrap Up Sponsor: AEIRO (Arrow Air Purifiers) AEIRO Air Purifiers help identify, reduce, and monitor airborne contaminants to create a cleaner indoor environment for homes and professional spaces. Featured in this episode: AEIRO AC150, powerful enough to clean rooms 300+ sq ft, quiet enough for production, with smart sensor controls and true HEPA plus carbon filtration. Website: AEIRO.co Guest: Tina Contogenis Tina Contogenis is the founder and president of Eris Talent Agency, an international talent agency representing actors and creators across film, television, streaming, and the rapidly expanding vertical drama marketplace. Under her leadership, Eris Talent developed the first agency division focused specifically on vertical content, representing both actors and production companies in the space. She also leads Aris Entertainment, the agency’s development arm, and serves on the board of the Association of Talent Agents. Tina is a voting member of the Television Academy, and Eris Talent is bi-coastal with additional offices in Mexico City and an affiliate in London. Instagram: @tinacontogenis Host: Buzz Leer Buzz Leer is an actor, host, and veteran of the vertical film space. Instagram: @buzz_leer A Glendale Podcast Studio Production Owned and operated by Erika and Jason Hanan Instagram: @glendalepodcaststudio Social Media Coordinator: Ana Karina Cano Instagram: @anakarinacano Theme Song: Grace Leer and Bryan Dawley The Vertical Buzz Theme Song Public Relations and Media: Robb Leer Leer Communications, Inc. Thank you Special thanks to all of my support team, friends, and family. Host, Buzz Leer
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