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by Jason V Barger
A thermostat is proactive. It sets the temperature in a room. Controls the temperature. Regulates the temperature. But in today's distracted, fast-paced and digital world, it's easy for individuals and organizations to act more like thermometers, slipping into reactionary thinking, becoming scattered and inconsistent. The most compelling leaders, teams, organizations, families or collection of humans of any kind operate in thermostat mode. They calibrate their mind and heart to set the temperature for the vision and culture they want to create. Jason Barger, globally celebrated author, keynote speaker and founder of Step Back Leadership Consulting, guides this journey to discover authentic leadership, create compelling cultures and find clarity of mission, vision and values.
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- 1 weeks ago41 min
Self-Awareness Tools with Jason P. Carroll
Many leaders and teams are not always aware of what is getting in their way and what opportunities exist to improve their culture and performance. Tools help us see more clearly. For Full Show Notes and Links Visit: https://www.jasonvbarger.com/podcast/self-awareness-tools-with-jason-p-carroll/ Jason is joined by his friend, Jason P. Carroll, the founder of Aptive Index, for an insightful conversation about leveraging self-awareness tools to remove leadership obstacles and build high-performance teams. Please rate and review the podcast to help amplify these messages to others! Summary: With employee engagement hitting a ten-year low and only 23% of workers trusting their organization's direction, how can executives build an environment where teams truly thrive? In this episode of The Thermostat, Jason V Barger sits down with behavioral intelligence specialist, TEDx speaker, and certified Dare to Lead facilitator Jason P. Carroll. Together, they explore the profound intersection of psychometric science, data-driven self-awareness, and strategic culture shaping. This conversation moves beyond generic motivational advice to break down the mechanics of human hardwiring in the workplace. Jason and Jason examine the hidden traps of leadership habits, highlighting how executives often inadvertently erode trust through micro-doses of misaligned communication. They analyze real-world case studies of behavioral clashes, emphasizing that true self-awareness isn't just about collecting personality data—it's about understanding your systemic impact and knowing how to dial in your personal strengths with precision. Essential listening for C-Suite executives, founders, and managers committed to mastering corporate culture, this episode offers a practical blueprint on leveraging AI-powered behavioral intelligence, navigating cultural dissonance, and deploying the core drivers of organizational trust to enhance leadership in teams. Episode Notes & Timestamps: Intro: Jason Barger introduces Jason P. Carroll, founder of Aptive Index, setting up a conversation on self-awareness tools and removing leadership obstacles. Meet Jason P. Carroll: A look into Carroll's background, including scaling a previous company from $20M to $80M through people decisions, training with Brené Brown, and playing sandlot baseball. Running Hot: Analyzing the cartoon imagery of running at maximum temperature and the difficulty high-performing leaders face when trying to slow down. The Evolution of Culture: Observations on how economic uncertainty, work-from-home shifts, and AI require leaders to reframe people leadership with deep intentionality. The Trust Crisis: Discussing the Gallup data hitting a 10-year low in employee engagement and the reality that only 23% of workers trust their leadership. The Data vs. Self-Awareness Trap: Why listing personal tendencies on a spreadsheet isn't true self-awareness, and the necessity of understanding your behavioral impact on a team. The Cowboy Hat Case Study: A narrative about a high-energy CEO learning that he can't expect a structured accounting department to adapt to his chaotic executive style. Misaligned Hardwiring: Jason P. Carroll shares a story from his previous company where clashing behavioral needs created an operational chasm between visionaries and operators. Dialing in Strengths: Why self-awareness doesn't mean becoming a chameleon, but rather finding the proper execution balance without losing your executive edge. Cultural Dissonance & Lingering Habits: Jason Barger unpacks why "what we allow lingers and what we teach triggers," and the leadership obligation to protect the culture of "we." The Trust Drivers: A comparison of the HBR trust drivers (logic, empathy, authenticity) and the Aptive Index metrics (character, competence, compassion). Psychometrics & The AI "Now What?":
- 2 weeks ago19 min
Assessing Your Team's Culture
Assessing your team's culture is an important step for your culture's future development. Jason discusses best practices for assessing the culture and leading real change. View Full Show Notes Here: https://www.jasonvbarger.com/podcast/assessing-your-team-culture/ Jason breaks down the critical architecture of a comprehensive cultural audit, explaining how elite teams can move beyond superficial surveys to actively calibrate their organizational environments. Please rate and review the podcast to help amplify these messages to others! Summary: Why do so many organizations excel at collecting workplace data yet consistently fail when translating those metrics into meaningful execution? In this episode of The Thermostat, Jason V. Barger breaks down the structural gap between simply "taking the temperature" of a workforce and actively "setting the temperature" for future growth. He explores why standard digitized employee engagement surveys often fail when deployed in isolation, and details a holistic methodology designed to map pain points and optimize organizational workflows. Moving past automated human resources checklists, Jason defines a robust, three-angled strategy for a comprehensive cultural audit. This framework blends organization-wide quantitative surveys with deeper cross-functional interviews and executive vantage point discovery sessions. By constructing a participatory assessment process rooted in active listening and clear forward plans, leaders can avoid employee cynicism, secure long-term buy-in, and successfully position corporate culture as a non-negotiable strategy. Essential listening for C-Suite executives, operations directors, and culture transformation advocates committed to leadership in teams, this episode offers a practical blueprint for turning baseline diagnostics into an active, high-performance roadmap. Episode Notes & Timestamps: [00:00] Intro: Jason introduces the essential requirement of evaluating your current corporate state before designing a future trajectory. [00:01] Calibrating the Thermostat: A milestone reflection on 335+ episodes and the ongoing commitment to breathing good oxygen into global workforces. [00:02] Authentic Algorithms: Why genuine human feedback is critical in the age of automated bots, and how listeners can help amplify positive leadership messages. [00:03] The 6 A's Framework: An overview of change management theory and the circular roadmap of Assess, Align, Aspire, Articulate, Act, and Anchor. [00:05] The Survey Trap: Examining why many companies get stuck in a passive loop of "taking the temperature" without ever building a real operational strategy. [00:08] The Cultural Audit Blueprint: How to design a holistic evaluation process using quantitative surveys to isolate trends across all departments. [00:09] Cross-Functional Layers: The power of structured qualitative interviews with multi-tiered representatives to extract deeper frontline insights. [00:10] Senior Leadership Vantage Points: Leading discovery sessions with the executive tier to target pain points and align baseline data with macro visions. [00:11] Core Values as Tools: Parallels between precise, actionable cultural language and utilizing assessment data as a living mechanism rather than a decorative poster. [00:13] Pillar 1 - Parti
- 3 weeks ago20 min
ReMember Who You Are Becoming
Remembering the core of why you exist and your purpose as an individual or a culture requires intentional remembrance. AND, ReMembering is a process for the future of who you hope to become. Jason explores the transformative power of "active remembrance," offering leaders a strategic blueprint to align core organizational identity with future execution. For Full Show Notes Visit: https://www.jasonvbarger.com/podcast/remember-who-you-are-becoming/ Please rate and review the podcast to help amplify these messages to others! Summary: In a fast-paced commercial landscape dominated by continuous systemic distraction, how do elite executives anchor their organizations while successfully driving innovation? In this episode of The Thermostat, Jason V Barger handles the profound practice of structural remembrance, demonstrating how looking backward at your core roots is the essential first step to moving forward effectively. This conversation moves beyond standard management advice to deconstruct the active process of what it means to ReMember. Jason breaks down the dual responsibility facing modern leaders: the cognitive requirement to recall exactly why an enterprise exists, paired with the structural assembly needed to align everyday habits with a future vision. Drawing on historical frameworks like Memorial Day and insights from his second book, Jason challenges leaders to shift their attention away from safe, repetitive patterns to build a highly connected corporate culture. Essential listening for C-Suite executives, HR directors, and managers focused on leadership in teams, this episode offers a practical five-part framework to reframe corporate narratives, hone non-negotiable priorities, and ensure that who you are becoming is explicitly aligned with your foundational purpose. Episode Notes & Timestamps: [00:00] Intro: Jason introduces the spirit of remembrance and the necessity of stepping back to evaluate the long-term journey. [00:01] Setting the Temperature: A reflection on 330+ episodes and the ongoing dedication to breathing good oxygen into leadership spaces globally. [00:03] The Origin of Memorial Day: Tracing the history of Decoration Day (1868) as a cultural blueprint for tracking foundational roots and honoring corporate sacrifice. [00:04] The 3 PM Pause: An analysis of the national moment of silence as a operational metaphor for executive self-reflection and recalibration. [00:07] Deconstructing "ReMember": Insights from Jason's second book on returning to core purpose while actively assembling a participatory, forward-looking future. [00:09] 1. Clarifying Future Identity: Why leaders who aim at nothing hit it every time, and how to explicitly describe your target organizational identity. [00:10] 2. Building Intentional Habits: Auditing how your team thinks, acts, and interacts daily to prevent institutional complacency and comfortable regressions. [00:12] 3. Process Over Results: Understanding why sustainable revenue and performance metrics are simply the downstream outcomes of intentional human development. [00:13] 4. Reframing the Inner Narrative: Strategies to break out of repetitive, risk-averse internal dialogue to focus on collective innovation and possibility. <strong data-path-to-node="16" data-index-in
- 4 weeks ago25 min
Cultivating Appreciation
Cultivating appreciation for the people, places, moments and learnings around us is a practice. In a world where it's often easier to be pulled into negativity bias, cultivating appreciation as a leader and culture are critical. For Full shownotes visit: https://www.jasonvbarger.com/podcast/cultivating-appreciation/ Jason explores the power of cognitive training and strategic focus, revealing how elite teams can overcome the psychological traps of negativity bias by actively cultivating appreciation. Please rate and review the podcast to help amplify these messages to others! Summary: In a hyper-connected world frequently dominated by algorithmic outrage and "rage bait," why is it so easy for workplace environments to slip into deep-seated cynicism? In this episode of The Thermostat, Jason V Barger targets the evolutionary mechanics of the "negativity bias"—the well-documented psychological truth that insults, criticisms, and setbacks stick in our memories far more than compliments and positive milestones. Jason shifts the leadership conversation away from toxic positivity and superficial, rose-colored glasses. Instead, he presents appreciation as a rigorous, performance-driven practice of strategic "attentiveness." Drawing on behavioral psychology, literature, and fast-paced executive encounters, Jason provides a distinct five-part framework for leaders to train their vision. By discovering how to steer organizational focus intentionally, executives can combat the default hyper-critical baseline and fundamentally alter the engagement trajectory of their corporate culture. Essential listening for C-Suite executives, operations directors, and culture transformation leaders, this episode provides a hands-on tactical guide to turning recognition from a soft sentiment into an actionable asset for leadership in teams. Episode Notes & Timestamps: [00:00] Intro: Jason frames the trajectory shift that occurs when leaders step back to cultivate an intentional mindset of appreciation. [00:03] The Negativity Bias: An in-depth look at the psychology behind why human brains naturally retain negative events and criticisms far more intensely than equivalent positive ones. [00:05] Sidelined by the "Criticulous": Shifting the team dynamic away from pointing out flaws as a detached critic toward actively owning solution-oriented actions. [00:08] Defining Positive Leadership: Why elite culture shaping requires naming harsh operational realities while concurrently choosing optimism for the future. [00:09] The Surfing Metaphor: Examining Mary Oliver's concept of "attentiveness" and why an entire organization's path follows exactly where its leaders look. [00:11] Practice 1: Stop, Listen, Look: A real-world example of slowing the body and brain down during a fast-moving morning to notice situational dynamics and calibrate the personal thermostat. [00:14] Practice 2: Catch Ordinary Gratitude: Shifting team attention to intentionally notice and validate beneath-the-surface or routine contributors who keep the business running. [00:16] Practice 3: Share It Out Loud: The critical step of explicitly articulating specific recognition to teammates rather than letting gratitude stay bottled up in your head. [00:17] Practice 4: Carry It With You: How to deliberately carry positive energetic momentum across individual high-stress meetings, stabilizing your presence as a leader. [00:18] Practice 5: Reframe with Learning: Stripping operational bottlenecks, setbacks, or delays of emot
- May 12, 202625 min
Cultural Lessons Learned from Mothers
Mothers have an enormous impact on our world. In this Mother's Day episode, Jason reflects on the cultural messages and sayings that help shape who we become. Jason explores the profound connection between maternal traits and professional excellence, identifying how the lessons we learn at home form the bedrock of elite organizational health. Please rate and review the podcast to help amplify these messages to others! Summary: In a high-pressure business world often obsessed with data and metrics, the most foundational elements of a thriving corporate culture are frequently the ones we learned long before entering the boardroom. In this episode of The Thermostat, Jason V Barger examines the maternal blueprint for leadership—exploring how traits like empathy, conscientiousness, and resilience serve as the "power skills" of the modern workplace. Drawing on research regarding maternal impact and personal stories from his own upbringing, Jason deconstructs five core mantras that every executive and team leader can use to calibrate their organization's temperature. This conversation moves beyond sentimentalism to address the core mechanics of leadership in teams: how to hit the pause button on judgment, why "doing it right the first time" is a strategic necessity, and how to maintain a steadying presence in the midst of organizational chaos. Essential listening for C-Suite executives, managers, and parents alike, this episode offers a unique look at how the language we use at home and in the office drives the behaviors that ultimately define our success. Episode Notes & Timestamps: [00:00] Intro: Jason welcomes listeners and sets the stage for a celebration of maternal wisdom and its impact on leadership. [00:03] The Global Impact: A look at the 2 billion mothers worldwide and the significant role they play in developing human emotional intelligence (EQ). [00:07] The Maternal Blueprint: Research-backed insights into how maternal nurturing fosters conscientiousness, empathy, and stress regulation in future leaders. [00:09] Mantra #1: Radical Empathy: "Everyone has something heavy they are carrying." How understanding the story behind the person builds a culture of high trust. [00:12] Mantra #2: The Standard of Excellence: "If you aren't willing to get it right the first time..." A discussion on mental toughness, discipline, and avoiding the trap of "busyness." [00:16] Mantra #3: Tenacious Action: "Go to the basket." Why leaders must stop "tiptoeing" around challenges and have the courage to pursue their vision directly. [00:18] Mantra #4: The Steadying Presence: "All is well." Lessons in resilience from the final weeks of Jason's mother's life and how to stay grounded during dark moments. [00:20] Mantra #5: Authentic Leadership: "You do you." Exploring his wife's advice on authenticity—why emulating others fails while being yourself fosters true connection. [00:22] Closing Questions: Strategic inquiries to help you identify and internalize the cultural messages you want your team to hear. Key Takeaways for Leaders: Radical Empathy: Use the "everyone is carrying something" lens to reduce conflict and increase social competency within your team. Precision in Action:</stro
- May 5, 202641 min
Strengthening Team Cultures with Mickey Marotti
Jason Barger is joined by strength and conditioning guru, and culture-champion for The Ohio State Buckeyes football program, Mickey Marotti, to talk leadership, culture and a development mindset. For full show notes visit https://www.jasonvbarger.com/podcast/strengthening-team-cultures-with-mickey-marotti/ Jason is joined by famed strength and conditioning coach Mickey Marotti, the Assistant Athletic Director for Football Sports Performance at The Ohio State University, for a masterclass on building elite team cultures. Please rate and review the podcast to help amplify these messages to others! Summary: In the high-stakes world of elite college athletics, how do you build a culture that survives the pressure of the spotlight and the volatility of the transfer portal? In this episode of The Thermostat, Jason V Barger sits down with Mickey Marotti—the man widely celebrated as the heartbeat of the Ohio State football program. Beyond the weight room and the gridiron, Coach Mick's insights offer a blueprint for corporate culture and leadership in teams across any industry. This conversation deconstructs the mechanics of "The Thermostat" leader. Mickey explains why consistency is a leader's most powerful tool and how a "Performance Team" approach—aligning psychologists, nutritionists, and trainers—mirrors the cross-functional alignment needed in modern business. They explore the shift from top-down management to a participatory model, discussing how to lead the "Why Generation" by fostering ownership and reciprocal accountability. Essential listening for C-Suite executives, managers, and team leaders, this episode offers a rare look at how to define cultural language (like the OSU "Fight"), develop emerging leaders from the ground up, and master the "no-talent" non-negotiables that drive sustainable success. Episode Notes & Timestamps: [00:00] Intro: Jason sets the stage for a conversation on proactive leadership development and setting the cultural temperature with one of the best in the business. [00:03] Meet Mickey Marotti: Introduction to Coach Mick's legendary career at Notre Dame, Florida, and Ohio State, and his role in shaping championship-level performance. [00:05] The Consistency Principle: Mickey shares why he must be the most consistent person in the building and how he sets the temperature for both his team and his family. [00:08] The Development Mindset: A look at the "Perpetual Development" process—meeting athletes as teenagers and helping them stretch beyond what they believe is possible. [00:11] The Performance Team: Why culture requires alignment across every department, from physical therapists to academic counselors. [00:14] Leadership Alignment: Mickey discusses the necessity of being "on the same page" as the head coach to ensure the mission isn't lost in translation. [00:16] Language as a Tool: Defining the OSU culture of "Fight" and "Tough Love." Why clarity in language is the only way to ensure desired behaviors exist in action. [00:19] The Transfer Portal & Changing Landscapes: How to bring new people into an existing culture quickly and the "pixie dust" effect of veterans moving to the front row. [00:23] Transformational vs. Transa
- Apr 28, 202614 min
Revitalize Your Core Values
Is your core values language compelling to your people and used as a tool for your culture? It might just be time to revitalize your core values. For Full Show Notes Visit: https://www.jasonvbarger.com/podcast/revitalize-core-values/ Jason explores the strategic necessity of moving beyond "poster-on-the-wall" philosophy to turn core values into a living, breathing competitive advantage for your organization. Please rate and review the podcast to help amplify these messages to others! Summary: In a world where many organizational mission statements are resigned to dusty frames in breakrooms, elite leaders understand a fundamental truth: language drives behavior. In this episode of The Thermostat, Jason V Barger examines how to revitalize your core values to drive engagement and provide radical clarity for the future culture you are aiming to create. This conversation moves beyond standard corporate platitudes to address the "poster problem"—the cynicism employees feel when there is a visible gap between espoused values and actual behavior. Jason argues that core values are meant to be a functional tool for leadership in teams, not just a decorative element of corporate culture. He outlines a disciplined process for revitalization, emphasizing that while your soul as an organization shouldn't change, your language must remain precise, aspirational, and participatory to stay relevant in a shifting market. Essential listening for C-Suite executives, HR directors, and team leaders, this episode offers a tactical roadmap for anchoring your values in the "hard" systems of your business—from hiring and onboarding to performance evaluations and leadership development. Episode Notes & Timestamps: [00:00] Intro: Jason explains the importance and impact of revitalizing core values to calibrate the organizational thermostat. [00:03] Language Drives Behavior: A deep look at why we cannot be surprised when a desired culture doesn't exist if we haven't articulated it in terms of action and behavior. [00:05] The "Poster" Problem: Addressing the reality of "tainted" employees who have seen values ignored by leadership and why the best organizations treat values as tools. [00:07] Revitalization vs. Change: Why you don't necessarily need to change your values, but why the language needs a living, breathing update every 8 to 10 years to re-engage your people. [00:09] The Participatory Pillar: Moving values from "on high" (the CEO or Board) to a cross-functional vision created by the people who actually live the culture every day. [00:10] The Aspirational Pillar: Why values shouldn't just describe who you are today, but articulate the high-performance culture you need to cultivate for the future. [00:10] Precision in Language: Moving past abstract words like "integrity." How to define exactly what your values look like in action, interaction, and decision-making. [00:11] Values as a Functional Tool: How to anchor revitalized language in the daily operations of the business, including hiring, coaching, and performance assessments. [00:12] Culture as Strategy: A reminder that culture is a non-negotiable strategy—the
- Apr 21, 202623 min
Employee Engagement is a 2-Way Street
With employee engagement hitting a 10 year low, what are humans looking for in a team and organization? And, what role does the employer and employee play? For Full Show Notes Visit: https://www.jasonvbarger.com/podcast/employee-engagement-2-way-street/ Jason explores the shifting landscape of workplace commitment, revealing why high-performing organizations view engagement as a dynamic partnership rather than a top-down mandate. Please rate and review the podcast to help amplify these messages to others! Summary: With U.S. employee engagement hitting a ten-year low, leaders are facing a critical disconnect: while 90% of employees want to feel connected to their corporate culture, only 20% actually do. In this episode of The Thermostat, Jason V Barger examines the research-backed reality that engagement is a two-way street. He explores the "scarcity of care" in modern organizations and identifies the specific human needs—purpose, clarity, and contribution—that drive elite performance. This conversation moves beyond standard HR metrics to address the core mechanics of human connection. Jason breaks down the substantial ROI of engagement, including a 22% increase in productivity and higher retention of top talent. He offers a strategic framework for transforming the employee experience through "two-way" hiring, 365-day cultural onboarding, and a shift from annual reviews to continuous coaching. Essential listening for C-Suite executives, HR directors, and team leaders, this episode provides actionable insights on how to eliminate "cloudy" expectations and build a high-trust ecosystem where every member of the team owns the temperature of the culture. Episode Notes & Timestamps: [00:00] Intro: Jason sets the stage for why the best organizations are doubling down on engagement in a time of widespread disconnection. [00:03] Defining Engagement: A look at engagement as emotional commitment—it's not "puppy dogs and ice cream," but a meaningful connection to organizational goals. [00:04] The Gallup Data: An analysis of the current crisis: engagement at a 10-year low (31%) and the rising tide of active disengagement (17%). [00:07] The Human Want List: Jason outlines the six things every human being needs from their employer, from feeling they matter to believing in the future being created. [00:11] The ROI of Connection: Why engagement predicts work quality, safety, and profitability, and the $322 billion global cost of disengagement. [00:13] The Clarity Gap: A discussion on why only 46% of employees know what is expected of them and how "cloudy" expectations lead to detachment. [00:15] Strategy for the 2-Way Street: Why employers must lead the culture first to invite employees into a participatory partnership. [00:17] Tactical Implementation: Jason explores how to weave engagement into the DNA of hiring, onboarding, and ongoing development. [00:20] Closing Questions: Strategic inquiries for leaders to assess their current engagement efforts and vision clarity. Key Takeaways for Leaders: Transactional to Transformational: Shift your hiring and onboarding from simple "check-the-box" tasks to 365-day cultural immersions. <strong data-path-to-node="17,1,0" data-index-
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About The Thermostat with Jason Barger
A thermostat is proactive. It sets the temperature in a room. Controls the temperature. Regulates the temperature. But in today's distracted, fast-paced and digital world, it's easy for individuals and organizations to act more like thermometers, slipping into reactionary thinking, becoming scattered and inconsistent. The most compelling leaders, teams, organizations, families or collection of humans of any kind operate in thermostat mode. They calibrate their mind and heart to set the temperature for the vision and culture they want to create. Jason Barger, globally celebrated author, keynote speaker and founder of Step Back Leadership Consulting, guides this journey to discover authentic leadership, create compelling cultures and find clarity of mission, vision and values.
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