The State of It: USA

Trump’s dizzying Nato summit: Greenland, Iran and Ukraine

July 8, 2026·32 min
Episode Description from the Publisher

Donald Trump has called the Iranians scum, as he calls off ceasefire talks. At the NATO summit in Ankara, his comments on Iran, Ukraine and more have once again put allies on edge. Nigel Farage has just returned from Washington to deepen his ties with Donald Trump – but is he also borrowing Trump's political playbook to distract from increased interests in his undeclared finances ahead of the looming by-election? Gerry unpacks Trump's surprising role in that World Cup red card controversy.Katy Balls, Washington editor and columnist at The Times and The Sunday TimesGerard Baker, columnist at The Times and editor at large at The Wall Street JournalProducers: Euan Dawtrey, Harry KitsonExecutive producer: Molly GuinnessPicture: Getty ImagesAudio: Reuters00:00 - Will Trump Pull Out of NATO? 00:41 - "They’re Scum" — Is the Iran Ceasefire Officially Over? 05:21 - NATO Summit Chaos: Trump Slams "Weak" European Allies 07:51 - The Absurd Battle for Greenland (Are We Planning for War?) 17:45 - Nigel Farage Resigns: Copied Straight From the Trump Playbook 26:30 - Trump’s Bizarre World Cup Intervention (The Secret FIFA Call) 31:46 - Why Trump’s Strongman Tactics Just BackfiredThis podcast was brought to you thanks to the support of readers of The Times and The Sunday Times. Subscribe today Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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