The State of It: USA

Trump in China: Iran for Taiwan?

May 13, 2026·22 min
Episode Description from the Publisher

As Donald Trump lands in China, could he change the US position on Taiwan in exchange for President Xi's help with Iran?What's at stake in the battle between Elon Musk and Sam Altman?And is it chivalry that prompted the decision to concrete over the rose garden at the White House?Katy Balls, Washington editor and columnist at The Times and The Sunday TimesGerard Baker, columnist at The Times and editor at large at The Wall Street JournalProducers: Euan Dawtrey, Harry KitsonExecutive producer: Molly GuinnessImage: Getty Images.Clips: ReutersThis podcast was brought to you thanks to the support of readers of The Times and The Sunday Times. Subscribe today Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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