Ep. 186: The Pentagon Just Released 162 UFO Files. A Canadian Forces Insider Read Every One.

Last Friday, the Pentagon released 162 declassified UFO files through a brand-new portal called PURSUE. The first formal federal release in 80 years. Some are calling it disclosure. Some are calling it a nothing burger.Rocky Swanson has spent his life inside the kind of system that handles this material. Joined the Royal Canadian Army Cadets at twelve. Served a full career in the Canadian Armed Forces, including a NORAD posting. Came home and became deputy fire chief in the town he grew up in. He was approached by the federal government to advise on a Canadian UAP initiative alongside sitting members of parliament. He was a guest co-host on a podcast that interviewed Lue Elizondo, the former Pentagon official who put UFOs on the front page of the New York Times in 2017. He got close enough to see the seams.In this episode Travis and Rocky walk through the Pentagon release, the actual evidence in the new tranche, why three pilots are not the same thing as three radar tracks, why Skinwalker Ranch matters more than people think, what really happened inside AATIP, who Bob Lazar actually is, and why the most interesting UAP case Rocky has ever encountered did not come from the Pentagon at all. It came from an F-18 pilot over the Canadian Arctic.Rocky believes in the possibility of life out there. He does not believe the people on stage right now are the ones who have found it.If you came to this conversation looking for someone who will tell you what to believe, you are in the wrong place. If you came looking for someone who will tell you how to think about this honestly, settle in._____Silvercore Club - https://www.silvercore.ca/clubOnline Training - https://www.silvercore.ca/Other Training & Services - https://www.silvercore.ca/course/categoryMerchandise - https://www.silvercore.ca/collections/all-merchandiseBlog Page - https://www.silvercore.ca/blogHost Instagram - @Bader.Trav https://www.instagram.com/bader.travSilvercore Instagram - @SilvercoreOutdoors https://www.instagram.com/silvercoreoutdoors____Chapter timestamps00:00  Cold open. The Pentagon just released 162 UFO files01:50  How a mutual friend's UAP footage started this conversation03:40  The conservation officer sighting that no one can explain07:30  Reading the Diary of a CEO UFO episode like a detective09:20  What an actual thermal imagery expert sees in the new footage17:00  The Nimitz Tic Tac case is not what you think it is21:00  Rocky admits he was starstruck by the Pentagon witnesses24:00  Wile E. Coyote, age 9, and Rocky's own first UFO sighting27:00  The 2016 moment that pulled him back into the rabbit hole33:00  Applying arson investigator rigor to UFO claims36:00  Why the Go Fast, Gimbal and Tic Tac videos were chosen39:30  Why is Trump releasing the files now?42:00  The intelligence friends who believe, and won't say why45:00  What would actually change Rocky's mind47:00  Rocky's CIA-adjacent contacts and how grifts get built50:00  The isotopic ratio testing story that fell apart51:00  When the Pentagon tried to read him in to NORAD programs54:00  The Sky Canada Project, and what Canada is actually doing56:00  Asking the base commander permission to study UFOs57:00  F-18 pilots who saw things they couldn't explain1:01:00  Japan Airlines Flight 1628 and the Arctic walnut-shape sighting1:03:00  The Canadian general who became Rocky's most credible witness1:09:00  Collective ignorance versus a cabal1:12:00  Bob Lazar has the credibility of a Labrador retriever1:15:00  Those who talk don't know. Those who know don't talk.1:19:00  Skinwalker Ranch and the dino beaver problem1:23:00  How Paul Hellyer got used by the UFO community1:26:00  Religion, ufology, and the snake-kissing Pentecostal connection1:28:00  Admiral Tim Gallaudet, hauntings, and pre-positioned belief1:33:00  Why humans are drawn to this in the first place1:39:00  Science asks questions. Ufology asks you to believe.1:42:00  What Obama actually said. What Trump actually meant.1:45:00  Don't be pulled down the rabbit hole1:46:00  The series begins. What we'll do next.