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Explore the fascinating world of sharks, skates and rays with The Shark Trust Podcast - a marine conservation podcast bringing you closer to the science, people and ideas shaping their future. Hosted by Mark Stokes-Packer, each episode features conversations with leading scientists, conservationists, filmmakers and ocean advocates. Together, we explore shark research, marine biology, fisheries, conservation policy, shark behaviour and what it means to live alongside these remarkable animals. Discover the challenges facing sharks and rays, the solutions already making a difference and the innovative research transforming our understanding of life beneath the surface. From overfishing and endangered species to citizen science and human–shark coexistence, the podcast offers expert insight, powerful stories and reasons to feel hopeful about the future of our ocean. Whether you’re a diver, marine biologist, conservation professional or simply fascinated by sharks, join us to discover more about these iconic species, and how we can all help protect them.
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- Jul 29, 202651 min
Living with Sharks: Tourism, Conflict & Coexistence with Paul Cox & Caroline Robertson-Brown | S2E6
What can The Bahamas teach us about living alongside sharks?In this episode of Series 2, host Mark Stokes-Packer speaks with Shark Trust CEO Paul Cox and Marketing Manager and underwater photographer Caroline Robertson-Brown. Together, they revisit the making of the Shark Trust’s short documentary, “Living with Sharks in The Bahamas”, and explore what they learned from the people sharing their islands and waters with sharks.From Nassau and Bimini to Grand Bahama and Cat Island, Paul and Caroline discuss the importance of shark tourism to local businesses and communities. They reflect on encounters with Great Hammerheads, Caribbean Reef Sharks, Bull Sharks, Oceanic Whitetips and Southern Stingrays, as well as the habitats that support them.But coexistence is not without challenges. Caroline shares what she heard from sport fishers experiencing high levels of shark depredation on Cat Island and why some are beginning to question the country’s shark protections. The conversation explores why community engagement, positive communication and practical solutions must continue long after a shark sanctuary has been established.Paul and Caroline also share lessons from South Africa, where different coastlines, communities and shark species require very different approaches to beach safety.From responsible shark diving and habitat conservation to tourism, fisheries and community engagement, this episode asks what meaningful coexistence really looks like and what other countries can learn from The Bahamas.Please like, share, subscribe and leave a comment. If you have a question about Living with Sharks, leave it below or email mark@sharktrust.org.Watch “Living with Sharks in The Bahamas”:https://youtu.be/vJ8g8Fjv9GIExplore the Speaking Up for the Ocean Toolkit:https://www.sharktrust.org/toolkitFollow the Shark Trust:InstagramFacebookLinkedInYouTubeSupport our work by becoming a member, adopting a shark, donating or taking part in our citizen science projects. Visit https://www.sharktrust.org.Series 2 sponsored by SurfEars.Artwork by rev.01 Studio.Recording by Louis Hogan.Video and sound editing by Mark Stokes-Packer.Research and planning by Cat Gordon and Mark Stokes-Packer.Thank you for listening to the Shark Trust Podcast!Chapters00:13 What Can The Bahamas Teach Us About Coexistence?00:33 Meet Paul Cox and Caroline Robertson-Brown01:02 Making “Living with Sharks in The Bahamas”04:12 First Impressions of Bimini05:26 Shark Diving and Tourism07:47 The Economic and Cultural Value of Sharks09:50 How Attitudes Towards Sharks Have Changed11:42 Local Knowledge and Sharing the Water13:29 Stingrays, Fear and Education15:38 Mangroves and Shark Habitats17:48 Diving and Filming Across The Bahamas19:52 When Sharks Found the 360 Camera21:55 Diving with Great Hammerheads23:36 Why Bimini Stood Out25:15 Connecting Land, Sea and Shark Conservation28:23 Lessons for Responsible Shark Tourism30:32 Codes of Conduct and Diver Safety31:03 Bringing Communities Along34:07 Conflict on Cat Island35:50 Sport Fishing and Shark Depredation37:51 Speaking Up for the Ocean39:38 Beach Safety Lessons from South Africa43:29 Expedition Highlights45:43 Favourite Shark Encounters49:00 Where Does Living with Sharks Go Next?
- Jul 9, 20261h 28m
Living with Sharks: Heavy Metal, Netflix and All the Sharks with Tom ‘The Blowfish’ Hird | S2E5
In this episode of the Shark Trust Podcast, host Mark Stokes-Packer is joined by Tom Hird, but you might know him as The Blowfish or just "Fish". "Fish" is a marine biologist, wildlife presenter, science communicator, presenter of Netflix’s All the Sharks, and quite possibly the world’s only heavy metal marine biologist. Fish shares how a childhood fear of Great Whites sparked a lifelong fascination, how he found his way into science communication, and why he has made it his mission to tell shark stories in a way that reaches beyond traditional wildlife audiences. We talk about his journey from school talks and Shark Trust videos to Blue Peter, Shark Week, Netflix and beyond. We also dig into All the Sharks and how it helped showcase the huge diversity of sharks, rays and lesser-known species that rarely get time on screen. Along the way, we cover heavy metal experiments with sharks, the importance of making science accessible, unforgettable dives, the joy from seeing sharks, and why conservation needs more voices, more stories and more ways to connect people with the ocean. This episode is part of our Living with Sharks series, exploring coexistence and what it means to share the ocean with sharks now and in the future! Useful links:Find Tom 'The Blowfish' Hird online: theblowfish.co.ukFollow Tom on Instagram: @bigpoppablowfishWatch the series All the Sharks on Netflix Learn more about the Shark Trust: sharktrust.org and how you can support our conservation work! Thank you to SurfEars for supporting this series. If you surf, dive, swim or spend time in cold water, protect your ears. Thank you to Rev.01 Studio for the Shark Trust Podcast artwork. Recording by Louis Hogan.Editing by Mark Stokes-Packer.Research and planning for this series by Cat Gordon and Mark Stokes-Packer.Hosted by Mark Stokes-Packer. Thank you for listening to the Shark Trust Podcast!
- Jul 9, 20261h 28m
Living with Sharks: Heavy Metal, Netflix and All the Sharks with Tom ‘The Blowfish’ Hird | S2E5
In this episode of the Shark Trust Podcast, host Mark Stokes-Packer is joined by Tom Hird, but you might know him as The Blowfish or just "Fish". "Fish" is a marine biologist, wildlife presenter, science communicator, presenter of Netflix’s All the Sharks, and quite possibly the world’s only heavy metal marine biologist.Fish shares how a childhood fear of Great Whites sparked a lifelong fascination, how he found his way into science communication, and why he has made it his mission to tell shark stories in a way that reaches beyond traditional wildlife audiences.We talk about his journey from school talks and Shark Trust videos to Blue Peter, Shark Week, Netflix and beyond. We also dig into All the Sharks and how it helped showcase the huge diversity of sharks, rays and lesser-known species that rarely get time on screen.Along the way, we cover heavy metal experiments with sharks, the importance of making science accessible, unforgettable dives, the joy from seeing sharks, and why conservation needs more voices, more stories and more ways to connect people with the ocean.This episode is part of our Living with Sharks series, exploring what it means to share the ocean with sharks now and in the future!Useful links:Find Tom 'The Blowfish' Hird online: theblowfish.co.ukFollow Tom on Instagram: @bigpoppablowfishWatch the series All the Sharks on NetflixLearn more about the Shark Trust: sharktrust.org and how you can support our conservation work!Thank you to SurfEars for supporting this series. If you surf, dive, swim or spend time in cold water, protect your ears.Thank you to Rev.01 Studio for the Shark Trust Podcast artwork.Recording by Louis Hogan.Editing by Mark Stokes-Packer.Research and planning for this series by Cat Gordon and Mark Stokes-Packer.Hosted by Mark Stokes-Packer.Thank you for listening to the Shark Trust Podcast!
- Jun 23, 202627 min
Reducing Depredation, Bycatch and Conflict with Dr Victoria Camilieri-Asch | S2E4 (Part 2)
How can fishers, scientists, and communities work together to reduce shark depredation?In Part 2 of this episode of the Shark Trust Podcast, host Mark Stokes-Packer continues his conversation with marine neurobiologist Dr Victoria Camilieri-Asch about shark depredation, fisher-shark interactions, shark sensory biology, and practical ways to support coexistence between people and sharks.Following on from Part 1, this episode focuses on solutions. The conversation explores how sharks use electroreception to detect tiny electrical signals in the water, why different species respond differently to deterrents, and why future technology must be developed with shark biology, fisheries needs, and real-world practicality in mind.From shark senses and deterrent technology to community-led research and future fisheries management, this episode explores what successful coexistence between people and sharks could look like.Please like, share, subscribe, and leave a comment. If you have a question about Living with Sharks, drop it below or email mark@sharktrust.org.Follow Dr Victoria Camilieri-Asch:Email: shark.ethology@gmail.comLinkedInLord Howe Island Shark Research Program Facebook page:https://www.facebook.com/LHISharksRelated research and links:Project Cucut paper:https://connectsci.au/mf/article/77/4/MF25165/271787/Significant-reduction-in-shark-cucut-depredationLord Howe Island Shark Research Program paper:https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00227-024-04549-5Documentary:https://www.facebook.com/ausmarineparks/videos/learn-about-the-galapagos-shark-with-this-video-collaboration-with-nsw-departmen/188631256438103/Follow the Shark Trust:InstagramFacebookLinkedInYouTubeSupport our work by becoming a member, adopting a shark, donating, or taking part in citizen science projects at sharktrust.org.Series 2 sponsored by SurfEars.Artwork by rev.01 Studio.Video and sound editing by Louis Hogan.Research and planning by Cat Gordon and Mark Stokes-Packer.Thank you for listening to the Shark Trust Podcast.Our short documentary "Living with Sharks: In the Bahamas" is available on YouTube.Chapters00:26 Welcome Back to Part 200:54 Shark Deterrent Videos and Field Trials01:34 Are Sharks Fussy Eaters?02:55 Shark Sensory Biology and Deterrent Technology04:00 Designing Deterrents for Different Shark Species05:29 Practical Ways Fishers Can Reduce Depredation08:00 Community Engagement at Lord Howe Island10:03 Changing Attitudes Towards Sharks13:16 What Does Successful Coexistence Look Like?16:44 Shark Depredation at Sharks International19:01 Future Research Priorities20:51 Modelling Shark Populations and Fisheries Management22:49 Planning Ahead for Recovering Shark Populations23:38 Vic’s Favourite Shark Species25:07 Chimaeras and Deep-Water Sharks26:43 Where to Find Vic’s Work
- Jun 23, 202640 min
Living with Sharks: Depredation and Shark Behaviour with Dr Victoria Camilieri-Asch | S2E4 (Part 1)
What happens when sharks and fisheries overlap?In this episode of Series 2, host Mark Stokes-Packer speaks with marine neurobiologist Dr Victoria Camilieri-Asch about shark depredation, shark behaviour, sensory ecology, and the complex relationship between sharks, fishers, and marine ecosystems.Together, Mark and Vic explore shark depredation, also known as bite-offs, where sharks remove fish from fishing gear before the catch can be retrieved. They discuss why this is becoming a growing issue for fishers, as well as the wider impacts on sharks, fisheries management, and marine ecosystems.The conversation also looks at what may drive depredation, including fishing activity, environmental conditions, and learned behaviour, and why predicting these interactions remains a challenge.Using Project Cucut in the Cocos Keeling Islands as a case study, Vic shares how researchers are working with local fishers and communities to better understand depredation and begin testing practical, non-lethal solutions.Listen to Part 2 to hear more about the solutions being tested, including shark deterrent technology, community engagement, and what successful coexistence between sharks and fishers could look like.Please like, share, subscribe, and leave a comment. If you have a question about Living with Sharks, drop it below and we can answer it in a future episode. Or email mark@sharktrust.org.Follow Dr Victoria Camilieri-Asch:Email: shark.ethology@gmail.comRelated research and links:Project Cucut paper:https://connectsci.au/mf/article/77/4/MF25165/271787/Significant-reduction-in-shark-cucut-depredationLord Howe Island Shark Research Program paper:https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00227-024-04549-5Follow the Shark Trust:InstagramFacebookLinkedInYouTubeSupport our work by becoming a member, adopting a shark, donating, or taking part in our citizen science projects. You can do all of this by visiting sharktrust.org.Series 2 sponsored by SurfEars.Artwork by rev.01 Studio.Video and sound editing by Louis Hogan.Research and planning by Cat Gordon and Mark Stokes-Packer.Thank you for listening to the Shark Trust Podcast!Our short documentary "Living with Sharks: In the Bahamas" is available on YouTube.Chapters00:26 Meet Dr Victoria Camilieri-Asch01:35 From Veterinary Science to Shark Research03:18 Shark Behaviour, Brains and Sensory Biology06:06 What Is Shark Depredation?07:59 Why Depredation Is Becoming a Growing Issue09:08 Why Are Sharks Attracted to Fishing Activity?12:05 Fisher Behaviour and Depredation13:18 Impacts on Fishers, Sharks and Ecosystems18:42 Fishing Gear, Bycatch and Wider Fisheries Impacts23:18 Key Drivers of Shark Depredation24:16 Shark Diet, Nutrition and Stable Isotope Research26:20 Project Cucut in the Cocos Keeling Islands27:56 Working with Local Fishers and Communities29:06 Electrical Shark Deterrents and Repelex31:06 How Shark Deterrent Technology Works32:32 Testing Shark Deterrents with Local Fishers34:13 Reducing Depredation, Bycatch and Gear Loss38:23 What Comes Next for Shark Depredation Research
- Jun 10, 202644 min
Living with Sharks: Shark Safety, Coexistence and Conservation with Dr Adi Barash | S2E3
Can people and sharks safely share the same waters?In this episode of Series 2, host Mark Stokes-Packer speaks with Dr Adi Barash, marine biologist, shark researcher, and founder of Sharks in Israel. Together, they explore an unusual shark hotspot, where aggregations of Dusky and Sandbar Sharks gather near coastal power plants.Adi explains how these shark aggregations were first discovered, what attracts the sharks to the area, and how years of research have helped reveal their behaviour. As more people become aware of the phenomenon, the site has become increasingly popular with divers, swimmers, and wildlife enthusiasts, creating new challenges for both shark conservation and public safety.The conversation also explores a tragic shark bite incident that occurred in Israel in 2025. Adi shares the wider context surrounding the event, including environmental conditions, human behaviour, increasing visitor numbers, and the lessons that can help reduce risk in the future.From recovering shark populations and citizen science to wildlife management and responsible behaviour, this episode examines what true coexistence looks like when people and sharks share the same space.Please like, share, subscribe, and leave a comment. If you have a question about Living with Sharks, drop it below and we can answer it in a future episode. Or email mark@sharktrust.org.Follow Dr Adi Barash:LinkedInSharks in Israel websiteSharks in Israel FacebookMECO ProjectFollow the Shark Trust:InstagramFacebookLinkedInYouTubeSupport our work by becoming a member, adopt a shark, donating, or taking part in our citizen science projects. You can do all of this by visiting sharktrust.org.Series 2 sponsored by SurfEars.Artwork by rev.01 Studio.Video and sound editing by Louis Hogan.Research and planning by Cat Gordon and Mark Stokes-Packer.Thank you for listening to the Shark Trust Podcast!Our short documentary "Living with Sharks: In the Bahamas" is available on YouTube.Chapters00:26 Meet Dr Adi Barash02:33 From Sea Turtles to Shark Research06:06 The Sharks and Rays of Israel10:01 Living with Sharks in Israel15:22 What Attracts Sharks to the Area?16:48 People, Sharks and Shared Waters19:34 Growing Tourism and Public Interest23:34 The 2025 Shark Bite Incident27:37 Understanding Risk and Coexistence31:25 Public Perception After a Shark Bite33:21 Conservation Success and Recovering Shark Populations38:52 Managing Shark Hotspots44:13 Sharks in Israel and Citizen Science
- Jun 9, 202644 min
Living with Sharks: Shark safety, coexistence and conservation with Dr Adi Barash | S2E3
Can people and sharks safely share the same waters?In this episode of Series 2, host Mark Stokes-Packer speaks with Dr Adi Barash, marine biologist, shark researcher, and founder of Sharks in Israel. Together, they explore one of the world's most unusual shark hotspots, where large aggregations of Dusky Sharks and Sandbar Sharks gather near coastal power plants every winter.Adi explains how these shark aggregations were first discovered, what attracts the sharks to the area, and how years of research have helped reveal their behaviour. As more people become aware of the phenomenon, the site has become increasingly popular with divers, swimmers, and wildlife enthusiasts, creating new challenges for both shark conservation and public safety.The conversation also explores a tragic shark bite incident that occurred in Israel in 2025. Rather than focusing on sensational headlines, Adi shares the wider context surrounding the event, including environmental conditions, human behaviour, increasing visitor numbers, and the lessons that can help reduce risk in the future.From recovering shark populations and citizen science to wildlife management and responsible behaviour, this episode examines what true coexistence looks like when people and sharks share the same space.Please like, share, subscribe, and leave a comment. If you have a question about Living with Sharks, drop it below and we can answer it in a future episode. Or email mark@sharktrust.org.Follow Dr Adi Barash:LinkedInSharks in Israel websiteSharks in Israel FacebookMECO ProjectFollow the Shark Trust:InstagramFacebookLinkedInYouTubeSupport our work by becoming a member, adopt a shark, donating, or taking part in our citizen science projects. You can do all of this by visiting sharktrust.org.Series 2 sponsored by SurfEars.Artwork by rev.01 Studio.Video and sound editing by Louis Hogan.Research and planning by Cat Gordon and Mark Stokes-Packer.Thank you for listening to the Shark Trust Podcast!Our short documentary "Living with Sharks: In the Bahamas" is available on YouTube.Chapters00:26 Meet Dr Adi Barash02:33 From Sea Turtles to Shark Research06:06 The Sharks and Rays of Israel10:01 Living with Sharks in Israel15:22 What Attracts Sharks to the Area?16:48 People, Sharks and Shared Waters19:34 Growing Tourism and Public Interest23:34 The 2025 Shark Bite Incident27:37 Understanding Risk and Coexistence31:25 Public Perception After a Shark Bite33:21 Conservation Success and Recovering Shark Populations38:52 Managing Shark Hotspots44:13 Sharks in Israel and Citizen Science
- May 26, 20261h 1m
Living with Sharks: Shark Ecotourism, Conservation and Coexistence with Dr Gonzalo Araujo | S2E2
Can ecotourism help sharks, or are we sometimes getting it wrong?In this episode of Series 2, host Mark Stokes-Packer speaks with Dr Gonzalo Araujo, Founder and Director of MARECO Marine Research and Conservation Foundation. Together, they explore what shark ecotourism really means, how it differs from ordinary wildlife tourism, and why the details matter.Gonzalo explains why good ecotourism should benefit sharks, local communities, and the wider marine environment. But he also looks at the risks. What happens when shark behaviour is changed? When does provisioning or overcrowding become a problem? And how do we decide where the line is between a positive wildlife encounter and one that causes harm?This episode also looks at codes of conduct, tourist responsibility, local management, and why the same species may need different rules in different parts of the world. From Whale Sharks in Australia to Blue Sharks in the UK, Gonzalo shows why there is no one-size-fits-all answer.Please like, share, subscribe, and leave a comment. If you have a question about Living with Sharks, drop it below and we can answer it in a future episode. Or email mark@sharktrust.orgFollow Dr Gonzalo Araujo:MARECO websiteMARECO InstagramGonzo's InstagramFollow the Shark Trust:InstagramFacebookLinkedInSupport our work by becoming a member, adopting a shark, donating, or taking part in our citizen science projects. You can do all of this by visiting sharktrust.orgSeries 2 sponsored by SurfEars.Artwork by rev.01 Studio.Video and sound editing by Louis Hogan.Research and planning by Cat Gordon and Mark Stokes-Packer.Thank you for listening to the Shark Trust Podcast!Our short-documentary "Living with Sharks: in the Bahamas" is available on YouTube.ChaptersChapters00:00 Introduction to Shark Ecotourism00:27 Meet Dr Gonzalo Araujo08:29 What Is Ecotourism?10:13 Can Ecotourism Help Sharks?13:10 Why Shark Tourism Works in Some Places and Not Others15:02 Risks of Shark Tourism19:03 How Tourism Can Change Shark Behaviour24:15 Where Is the Red Line?28:25 Animal Welfare and Ecosystem Function29:36 Provisioning, Conditioning, and Long-Term Impacts33:29 Codes of Conduct and Blue Shark Tourism41:07 Creating Codes of Conduct with Operators43:26 What Makes a Good Code of Conduct?45:04 Enforcement, Licensing, and Responsibility50:26 Planning Ahead for Shark Recovery53:15 How to Choose Responsible Shark Tourism57:13 Gonzalo’s Favourite Shark59:30 Where to Find Gonzalo and MARECO
About The Shark Trust Podcast | Shark Science and Conservation
Explore the fascinating world of sharks, skates and rays with The Shark Trust Podcast - a marine conservation podcast bringing you closer to the science, people and ideas shaping their future. Hosted by Mark Stokes-Packer, each episode features conversations with leading scientists, conservationists, filmmakers and ocean advocates. Together, we explore shark research, marine biology, fisheries, conservation policy, shark behaviour and what it means to live alongside these remarkable animals. Discover the challenges facing sharks and rays, the solutions already making a difference and the innovative research transforming our understanding of life beneath the surface. From overfishing and endangered species to citizen science and human–shark coexistence, the podcast offers expert insight, powerful stories and reasons to feel hopeful about the future of our ocean. Whether you’re a diver, marine biologist, conservation professional or simply fascinated by sharks, join us to discover more about these iconic species, and how we can all help protect them.
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