Matt talks with Harrison Koehli, editor of the second edition of Andrew Lobaczewski's "Political Ponerology: The Science of Evil, Psychopathy, and the Origins of Totalitarianism". Harrison has studied psychopathy, particularly in the political realm - a topic that has been overshadowed by more popular notions of psychopathy. You can find Harrison on Substack https://ponerology.substack.com/ where he writes about political ponerology, and on X https://x.com/RainDogBone You can find us at https://thescienceofpsychotherapy.com/
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