
In this episode, Riley Gaines speaks with Jan Jekielek about forced organ harvesting in China, the history behind the practice, and why it raises urgent questions about medicine, consent, and human dignity. They discuss how the system works, who it targets, what it says about the Chinese Communist Party, and why this issue should concern anyone who cares about ethical medical care. This conversation also looks at the broader danger of utilitarian thinking in medicine — when the value of a human life starts to depend on usefulness, power, or convenience. It is a serious, sobering episode that connects human rights, healthcare ethics, and the future of trust in medicine. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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