The Rest Is Politics: Leading

208. Mustafa Suleyman: Is AI Actually Conscious?

September 27, 2026·1h 6m
Episode Description from the Publisher

Can Artificial Intelligence stay subordinate? Is Anthropic’s 100-Page constitution creating dangerous AI autonomy? Should AI models be granted legal personhood, rights, or financial compensation? CEO of Microsoft AI, and co-founder and former head of AI at DeepMind, Mustafa Suleyman, joins Rory Stewart to discuss all this and more. If you'd like to listen to more of Mustafa Suleyman and his backstory, click here to find our previous interview with him from 2023. Search IG.com to find out more and/or Look for IG in your app store. For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to goalhanger.com Instagram: @restispolitics Twitter: @restispolitics Email: therestispolitics@goalhanger.com __________ Social Producer: Celine Charles Video Editor: Teo Ayodeji-Ansell Assistant Producer: Daisy Alston-Horne Senior Producer: Nicole Maslen Head of Politics: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor, Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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