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- May 29, 202533 min
Ep. 24: Why Non-Christian Libertarians Should (And How They Can) Become Christians
We explain what becoming and being a Reformed Christian and a Reformed libertarian is and means in basic terms. We say why one should, and how one can, become a Reformed Christian and a Reformed libertarian. We explain what libertarianism is, and why every libertarian is already a religious libertarian. We mention the ultimate purpose in becoming a Christian, and part of how Reformed Christianity grounds our view of libertarianism. We briefly explain how the Reformed view of Romans 13 is compatible with libertarianism. And we conclude with three general things a non-Christian can do to facilitate their discovering that Christianity is true.https://reformedlibertarians.com/024Main Points of Discussion00:00 Introduction00:32 Episode description02:06 What it means to become and be a Christian05:38 What we mean by libertarianism09:54 Why every libertarian is already a religious libertarian15:55 The ultimate purpose in becoming a Christian18:20 How Reformed Christianity grounds libertarianism25:27 What about Romans 13?29:19 Recap30:12 Three things to discover Reformed Christianity is trueAdditional ResourcesEpisode 1: Reformed Libertarians Podcast introductionhttps://reformedlibertarians.com/001 Episode 12: Is Civil Governance Without The State Plausible?https://reformedlibertarians.com/012 Episode 19: The Myth of Religious Neutralityhttps://reformedlibertarians.com/019 For more about self-evidence see the 11 lecture series (about 3.5 hrs total) “Philosophy of Religion and Knowing God is Real,” especially lectures 6 & 7https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwrDNUO5MDu_XWQBwDFvjTk0Au0-6un3D Episode 2: What Does Romans 13 Say About Civil Government?https://reformedlibertarians.com/002 The Reformed Political Resistance Theology annotated bibliographyhttps://tinyurl.com/RefoPoliResistBib "The Problem Of Evil Answered"https://sites.google.com/view/problemofevilanswered Three things Non-Christians can do to facilitate discovering the truth of Christianity is discussed in lecture 11 of the series mentioned above.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWusi_p9RhU&list=PLwrDNUO5MDu_XWQBwDFvjTk0Au0-6un3D&index=11 The New Testament Gospel of Johnhttps://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John&version=ESV Following the plot of the Bible’s big picturehttps://upper-register.com/mp3s.html#unfolding Study Guide to the Westminster Shorter Catechism, by G.I. Williamsonhttps://www.amazon.com/dp/0875525210 Putting Amazing Back into Grace: Embracing the Heart of the Gospel, by Michael Hortonhttps://www.amazon.com/dp/0801014212 Walking with Jesus through His Word: Discovering Christ in All the Scriptures, by Dennis E. Johnsonhttps://www.amazon.com/dp/1596382201 Contact Gregory and Kerryhttps://reformedlibertarians.com/#contact EXTRA: "Answers To Some Questions From A Non-Christian Libertarian"https://reformedlibertarians.com/answers-to-some-questionsThe Reformed Libertarians Podcast is a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute: https://libertarianchristians.com and a member of the Christians for Liberty Network: https://christiansforliberty.netAudio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com
- Apr 10, 20251h 2m
Ep. 23: Calvin, Thomism, and Natural Law Libertarianism, with Jonathan McIntosh
An interview with Dr. Jonathan McIntosh on several of his presentations at The George Buchanan Forum. We discuss errors in Calvin’s view of civil government, and we mention the God-ordained check on abuse and tyranny. We then discuss McIntosh’s outline of a classical or Thomistic natural law tradition approach to libertarianism, and his critique of the Aristotelian-Thomist view of politics. We also discuss the neglected figurative or typological character of old covenant civil law by scholastic thinkers. We conclude with information about The George Buchanan Forum and other articles from McIntosh.https://reformedlibertarians.com/023Main Points of Discussion00:00 Introduction00:32 Episode description01:30 Guest intro and background10:11 Errors of Calvin’s view of civil government15:21 Value in such critique and why Calvin’s erroneous view is popular19:53 Comments on Reformers vs Calvin and obsta principiis23:03 Natural Law Libertarianism31:59 Moral realism, harm, and double effect39:32 Errors of a Thomist view of politics43:56 Neglected “figurative” or typological character of Mosaic civil law in a scholastic view51:18 Respective specifications of moral and civil law56:00 Errors of an establishmentarian view1:00:21 The George Buchanan forumAdditional Resources:Links for Dr. Jonathan McIntosh- on fb: https://facebook.com/jonathan.mcintosh.161- on x: https://x.com/DrJMcIntosh- blog: https://jonathansmcintosh.wordpress.com - other blog: https://naturallawlibertarian.wordpress.com - His book The Flame Imperishable: Tolkien, St. Thomas, and the Metaphysics of Faerie:https://amazon.com/dp/1621383156 - articles: "Theonomy, General Equity, and Libertarianism"https://reformedlibertarians.com/theonomy-general-equity-and-libertarianism-by-jonathan-mcintosh/ “Aquinas and Libertarianism: Coercion and the Common Good in the Summa’s Definition of Law”https://www.marketsandmorality.com/index.php/mandm/article/view/1587 “The Libertarian Aquinas”https://libertarianchristians.com/2021/04/05/the-libertarian-aquinas/ Links for The George Buchanan Forum- website: https://tgbf.org - on FB: https://facebook.com/TheGeorgeBuchananForum - on X: https://x.com/BuchananForum - on YT: https://youtube.com/@thegeorgebuchananforum6899 - Presentation by Jeremy Bunch on “George Buchanan & Scots Reformed Resistance Theory”:https://youtube.com/watch?v=JZcpcYqhs5o The Silence Of St. Thomas, by Josef Pieperhttps://amazon.com/dp/1890318787 On the “School of Salamanca” or late Spanish Scholastics’ (early modern Roman Catholic Thomists) economic views:https://mises.org/mises-wire/true-founders-economics-school-salamanca ( See also Alejandro Cafuen’s Faith and Liberty: The Economic Thought of the Late Scholasticshttps://store.mises.org/Faith-and-Liberty-The-Economic-Thought-of-the-Late-Scholastics-P170.aspx )A more favorable view of Van Til, contra Aquinashttps://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc745/ ( See the full course on the Doctrine of Revelation by Lane Tipton here:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLt5DwS6MFoBBE-_RkMx4umfvDlligzvj1 )The 1st presentation discussed: “Evaluating Calvin: A Critique of On Civil Government,” by Jonathan McIntoshhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=DS9RW3e7eMQ The Reformed Political Resistance bibliographyhttps://tinyurl.com/Re
- Feb 20, 202529 min
Ep. 22: The Cultural Context Of Politics
A discussion of "What Is Culture?," Part 1 of the Reformed Libertarianism Statement. Other episodes are mentioned in which some points from episode 4 are elaborated, and the meaning of subjective sanctification of culture is reiterated. The definition of culture, and why it’s addressed is further explained. The model of reciprocally influencing layers of culture is elaborated, illustrated, and related to the study of historical process. And the promotion of so-called "cultural Christianity" is considered.https://reformedlibertarians.com/022Main Points Of Discussion00:00 Introduction00:32 Episode description02:02 Scholasticism and Biblicism vs Neo-Calvinism03:41 Subjective sanctification of a Christian’s cultural activity05:16 Culture as such, and “cultus”08:22 Why we address culture; and the image of God12:09 The model of reciprocal layers of culture18:10 Illustration of the cell/mobile phone21:06 Culture and historical process23:52 So-called “cultural Christianity”Additional Resources Episode 4 : How Should Christians View Culture and What Are Some Mistaken Views? https://reformedlibertarians.com/004 Scholasticism is further addressed: - Episode 19 : The Myth Of Religious Neutrality https://reformedlibertarians.com/019 - Episode 21 : Two Kingdoms and Christian Cultural Activity https://reformedlibertarians.com/021 Biblicism (esp, theonomy and theocracy) is further addressed: - Episode 15 : Can Christian Civil Government Be Theocratic? https://reformedlibertarians.com/015 - Episode 18 : Politics and the Church’s Mission —What Should the Church Teach About Civil Government? https://reformedlibertarians.com/018 The Reformed Libertarianism Statement (and Principles) https://reformedlibertarians.com/reformed-libertarianism-statement/ With Reverence and Awe: Returning to the Basics of Reformed Worship, by Darryl Hart and John Muether https://amazon.com/dp/0875521797/ On a biblical Reformed view of the “image of God,” see by Meredith Kline: the article “Creation in the Image of the Glory Spirit”https://meredithkline.com/klines-works/articles-and-essays/creation-in-the-image-of-the-glory-spirit/ and the book Images Of The Spirit https://amazon.com/dp/1579102050/ For more on the “Structural” and “Directional” dimensions, also see Created In The Image Of God, by Anthony Hoekema https://amazon.com/dp/0802808506/ “History: Sound and Fury Signifying Nothing?” by Louis Voskuil (March 1988) https://digitalcollections.dordt.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2213&context=pro_rege “History as Process: Meaning in Change” by Louis Voskuil (June 1988) https://digitalcollections.dordt.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2211&context=pro_rege The Reformed Libertarians Podcast is a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute: https://libertarianchristians.com and a member of the Christians for Liberty Network: https://christiansforliberty.net Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com
- Dec 21, 202442 min
Ep. 21: Two Kingdoms and Christian Cultural Activity
A discussion of a Reformed Two Kingdoms view, and the possibility of a distinctively Christian view of the believer’s cultural activity according to an orthodox Neo-Calvinism, in contrast with a Scholastic view. Key points from episodes 4 and 19 are summarized, and the Two Kingdoms view being addressed is described. The use of the term Scholasticism is explained against an objection. And a key difference between Neo-Calvinism and a Scholasticized view is variously illustrated.https://reformedlibertarians.com/021Main Points of Discussion00:00 Introduction00:32 Episode description02:08 Key points from episode 4 on Christian cultural activity07:09 Key points from episode 19 on religious non-neutrality09:23 Reformed Two Kingdoms distinctions13:41 The views of David VanDrunen18:43 The term Scholasticism as modified Aristotelianism 24:04 Reiteration of key difference between Neo-Calvinist and Scholastic views25:58 More about VanDrunen’s views27:52 Religious views of a saltshaker32:43 The question of logical norms34:54 Similar to interpreting Scripture36:20 Religious views of limited civil governance40:35 Conclusion *Usually we catch these things, but Gregory didn't catch his mispronunciation of philological til later.Additional ResourcesEpisode 4: How Should Christians View Culture and What Are Some Mistaken Views?https://reformedlibertarians.com/004 Episode 19: The Myth Of Religious Neutralityhttps://reformedlibertarians.com/019 See David VanDrunen’s more scholarly book Natural Law and the Two Kingdoms (2009)https://www.amazon.com/dp/0802864430/ and his more popular-level book Living in God’s Two Kingdoms (2010)https://www.amazon.com/dp/1433514044/ “Five Versions Of Two Kingdoms and Foundations For Christian Cultural Activity” by Gregory Baushttps://reformedlibertarians.com/five-versions-of-two-kingdoms-and-foundations-for-christian-cultural-activity/ Info on Meredith G. Klinehttps://meredithkline.com/ Especially see Kline's book Kingdom Prologue (1993)https://www.amazon.com/dp/1597525642/ Michael Beck’s book Covenant Lord and Cultic Boundary (2023)https://www.amazon.com/dp/1666737577/ The Catholic Encyclopedia (1912) entry on “Scholasticism”https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13548a.htm See the first two chapters (93 pages) of Herman Dooyeweerd’s Reformation And Scholasticism In Philosophy, Volume 2 (1950) for historical background on the development of Neo-Calvinism and its criticism of Scholastic views.https://vcho.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Reformation-and-Scholasticism-in-Philosophy-A-Vol-5-2.pdf#page=25 For example of a non-Christian’s view of limited civil governance from creational revelation, see Murray Rothbard’s For A New Liberty (1973)https://mises.org/library/book/new-liberty-libertarian-manifestoand Ethics Of Liberty (1982) audio: https://mises.org/library/book/ethics-liberty text: https://cdn.mises.org/The%20Ethics%20of%20Liberty%2020191108.pdf The Reformed Libertarians Podcast is a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute: https://libertarianchristians.com and a member of the Christians for Liberty Network: https://christiansforliberty.net Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com
- Nov 21, 202446 min
Ep. 20: A Review Of Highlights
In a series of highlights from earlier episodes, Kerry and Gregory explain what the Reformed Libertarians Podcast is about, their confessionally Reformed view of Romans 13, what their practical strategy is, how the goal they are working towards is entirely realistic, and how they address a prominent objection raised by, perhaps, most people.https://reformedlibertarians.com/020 Main Points of Discussion00:00 Start00:32 Episode description01:10 First highlight from episode 1: https://reformedlibertarians.com/001 09:56 Second highlight from episode 2: https://reformedlibertarians.com/002 16:12 Third highlight from episode 8: https://reformedlibertarians.com/008 26:33 Fourth highlight from episode 12: https://reformedlibertarians.com/012 37:43 Fifth highlight from episode 14: https://reformedlibertarians.com/014 The Reformed Libertarians Podcast is a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute: https://libertarianchristians.com and a member of the Christians for Liberty Network: https://christiansforliberty.netAudio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com
- Sep 26, 202454 min
BONUS: Replies from David VanDrunen On State Illegitimacy
In this bonus episode, we interview Dr. David VanDrunen. We consider his reply on several points to Pastor Taylor Drummond's critical article that we discuss in episode 17. The title of that article is "Fool's Gold?: A libertarian analysis of VanDrunen's account of state legitimacy" and it examines particular arguments in David VanDrunen's book Politics After Christendom.VanDrunen expresses his appreciation for Drummond's article and our episode discussing it, raises questions concerning immoral complicity if the state is taken to be illegitimate, offers some clarification about his (up to this point) not having differentiated monopoly states from non-monopolistic civil governance in his writing, raises questions concerning what sort of consent is normative for the customary legal order's own legitimacy and its authorizing function, raises the question of when abuse or injustice might categorically disqualify one from rightfully possessing authoritative office and its relation to political resistance, and, at the end, responds to our proposal how a fuller, non-aggressionist view of proportionality in the lex talionis of the Noahic Covenant entails a conclusive argument in favor of the exclusively "protectionist" purpose of civil governance law. https://reformedlibertarians.com/bonusCMain Points of Discussion00:00 Introduction00:09 Episode description02:15 Prefatory statements05:37 The question of immoral complicity16:30 Clarifying matters of complicity21:13 The question of civil governance vs. monopoly state27:55 Distinguishing normativity from de facto (non-)conformity to norms31:00 The question of legitimizing consent35:56 Distinguishing compliance under duress (by aggression)40:45 The question of abuse/tyranny and de-legitimization45:20 The question of a conclusive protectionist-only view49:32 Remaining uncertainty about Scriptural “regulative principle” for civil governance52:29 Closing remarksAdditional ResourcesAbout David VanDrunenhttps://www.wscal.edu/faculty-member/david-vandrunen/ – author page at Mongerismhttps://www.monergism.com/authorsspeakers/david-vandrunen – bib at ResearchGatehttps://www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/David-VanDrunen-2115184386 Episode 17: David VanDrunen’s View Of Civil Government, with Taylor Drummondhttps://reformedlibertarians.com/017 “Fool’s Gold?: A libertarian analysis of VanDrunen’s account of state legitimacy,” by Taylor Drummondhttps://libertarianchristians.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/CLR-5-Drummond.pdfPolitics After Christendom by David VanDrunenhttps://www.amazon.com/dp/0310108845/ “The Protectionist Purpose of Law: A Moral Case from the Biblical Covenant with Noah,” by David VanDrunenhttps://www.pdcnet.org/jsce/content/jsce_2015_0035_0002_0101_0117 Episode 2: What Does Romans 13 Say About Civil Government?https://reformedlibertarians.com/002 Episode 8: The Boetie Option - the peaceful underthrow of the statehttps://reformedlibertarians.com/008 Episode 14: Does Political Representation Make Sense?, with Gerard Caseyhttps://reformedlibertarians.com/014 Episode 15: Can Christian Civil Government Be Theocratic?https://reformedlibertarians.com/015 Episode 18: Politics And The Church’s Mission: What Should The Church Teach About Civil Government? https://reformedlibertarians.com/018 Audio of Answering 10 Objections to Libertarian Anarchism by Roderick Longhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsUjJ7TOhgk&list=PLwrDNUO5MDu8WYU5oB7l037lvAEjSoPBr&index=13 Replies to this episode from Taylor Drummondhttps://thearchy.subst
- Sep 12, 202445 min
Ep. 19: The Myth Of Religious Neutrality
A reading of edited excerpts from the article “On The General Relation Of Religion, Metaphysics, and Science” by Dr Roy A. Clouser, presenting the Neo-Calvinist view of what has been called The Myth Of Religious Neutrality. The predominant Scholastic view of the general relation is summarized, followed by a summary of the Neo-Calvinist, or Reformational view. According to the Neo-Calvinist view, the way in which religious belief guides theories is then summarized, the view of religious belief is further explained, how religious belief within a given metaphysics affects science is further explained, and a prominent objection is answered. https://reformedlibertarians.com/019Main Points of Discussion00:00 Introduction00:32 Episode description03:29 The Scholastic View07:46 The Neo-Calvinist (Reformational) View13:34 Scientific theories guided by a basic view of reality17:47 A basic view of reality guided by a religious belief19:02 More about religious belief27:11 How religious belief within a metaphysics affects science37:03 Example of atomic theory40:13 An objection answeredAdditional ResourcesAbout Dr. Roy A. Clouserhttps://www.royclouser.com https://allofliferedeemed.co.uk/roy-a-clouser/ “On The General Relation Of Religion, Metaphysics, And Science” by Roy Clouserhttps://tukampendatastore.blob.core.windows.net/neocalvinism/allofliferedeemed/Clouser/Clouser1996-Facets-of-faith-and-Science-ch%203.PDF The Myth Of Religious Neutrality (rev, 2005) by Roy Clouserhttps://www.amazon.com/dp/0268023662 Introduction to A Commentary on Genesis by John Calvin (1554)https://ccel.org/ccel/calvin/calcom01/calcom01.vi.html Video on the Myth of Religious Neutrality by Roy Clouserhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLUAtso8cBw&list=PLwrDNUO5MDu9Y8kqS66XUSgRaVXbf9M-A&index=3 “Is There A Christian View Of Everything?” by Roy Clouserhttps://sites.google.com/site/christianviewofeverything “Five Versions Of ‘Two Kingdoms’ and Foundations For Christian Cultural Activity” by Gregory Baushttps://reformedlibertarians.com/five-versions-of-two-kingdoms-and-foundations-for-christian-cultural-activity/ 11 videos on Philosophy of Religion by Roy Clouserhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwrDNUO5MDu_XWQBwDFvjTk0Au0-6un3D 32 videos on Introduction to (Reformational) Christian Philosophy by Roy Clouserhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwrDNUO5MDu-T6PEv7K3nfET-yWKoo523The Reformed Libertarians Podcast is a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute: https://libertarianchristians.com and a member of the Christians for Liberty Network: https://christiansforliberty.netAudio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com
- Aug 15, 202439 min
Ep. 18: Politics and the Church's Mission: What Should the Church Teach About Civil Government?
We discuss the teaching mission of the institutional church, its relation to the church’s statements of faith, and what the institutional church must and may not teach about politics on several important points. We talk about the Reformed confessional view of submission to civil governance, the recent failure of some churches in the face of unlawful state dictates, the error of theonomic views, and how a biblically Reformed covenantal hermeneutic informs a correct view of general equity.https://reformedlibertarians.com/018Main Points of Discussion00:00 Introduction00:32 Episode description01:00 Why are we discussing this?02:15 What is the church’s teaching mission?05:07 One way the Reformed confessions are part of the church’s mission07:34 False teaching about submission to God-ordained civil governance13:43 Not a matter of political theory14:53 False teaching of original and so-called “general equity theonomy”19:28 Proper meaning of general equity24:30 The Reformed biblical covenantal hermeneutic30:39 Recap32:53 Disestablishmentarianism and Biblical criterion of proportional retributionAdditional Resources:What Does Romans 13 Say About Civil Government?https://reformedlibertarians.com/002Why Is The Right Of Resistance Important?https://reformedlibertarians.com/006Answers to Objections to Reformed Confessional View of Romans 13https://reformedlibertarians.com/episode/why-isnt-the-state-biblically-justified-resolving-romans-13-objections/Annotated bibliography of Reformed Political Resistance Theologyhttps://tinyurl.com/RefoPoliResistBibPaper and video presentation of “Theonomy, General Equity, and Libertarianism” by Jonathan McIntoshhttps://reformedlibertarians.com/theonomy-general-equity-and-libertarianism-by-jonathan-mcintoshExcerpt from “Men In Combat Over The Civil Law: ‘General Equity’ in WCF 19.4” by Peter Wallace and Craig Troxelhttps://sites.google.com/view/general-equity/Lecture series on Reformed Covenant Theology in systematic, biblical, and practical perspectives by Lee Ironshttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwrDNUO5MDu9WPd6FaReLxZkaK7VO8plEVideo explaining the relations between the Abrahamic, Old Mosaic, and New Covenants, by Lee Ironshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_ScAhK-s2s5 videos explaining the typological works principle in the Old Mosaic Covenant, by Lee Ironshttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwrDNUO5MDu-vEf9AeUSZt8UY53E7OYnFThe Westminster Confession of Faith (1788)https://opc.org/wcf.htmlThe Belgic Confession of Faith (1958)https://threeforms.org/the-belgic-confession/Resources on the false teaching of Theonomy- Meredith G. Kline’s article on theocracyhttps://meredithkline.com/klines-works/articles-and-essays/the-relevance-of-the-theocracy/- Lee Irons’ article on Theonomy’s Dispensational Hermeneutichttps://www.the-highway.com/theonomy-hermeneutic_Irons.html- Lane Tipton’s article on The Eschatology of Hebrews 2:1-4: A Critical Appraisal of the Theonomic Thesishttps://kerux.com/doc/1501A1.asp- T. David Gordon’s article on Critique of Theonomy: a Taxonomyhttps://web.archive.org/web/20200718055717/http://tdgordon.net/theology/theonomy.pdfCan Christian Civil Government Be 'Theocratic'?https://reformedlibertarians.com/015“Against Civil Establishment Of Religion” by Gregory Baus<a href="https://reformedlibertarians.com/against-civil-establishme
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