The Radical Obedience Podcast with Lisa A. Smith. Helping entrepreneurs eliminate chronic stress through complete surrender

146 | Stop Focusing on Pain and Have the Courage to Desire Pleasure

September 21, 2026·1h 2m
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In this episode, Lisa talks about the pattern of getting out of pain, only to end up in the same place again. Whether it shows up as debt, weight gain, unhealthy relationships, stress, or overwhelm, Lisa explains that many people focus on finding relief without asking what keeps bringing them back to the same pain. Getting out is important, but it is not the whole plan. Lisa makes the case for having both an exit strategy and an enter strategy: a way to leave what hurts and a way to move toward what you actually want. She also talks about how pain can become the main focus, making it hard to tell the truth about our desires. Sometimes we shrink what we want because it feels unrealistic, inconvenient, selfish, or too hard to explain. Lisa challenges us to stop lying to ourselves about what we want and start naming it clearly. Tune in if you are ready to stop chasing temporary relief and start telling the truth about what you want next. This episode will help you see why lasting change requires more than getting out of pain. It also requires giving yourself permission to move toward desire.   💫GOLD HANDLE CLUB: Imperfect Founders Edition If you’re feeling overwhelmed, stuck, or avoiding what you know needs to happen, this is your next step. The Gold Handle Club is a simple 5–10 minute daily ritual with coaching and community designed to help you eliminate chronic stress—not manage it—so you can finally move with clarity and Radical Obedience®. Join the Imperfect Founders Edition, get your first 30 days free (just cover shipping), and start making the shifts you’ve been putting off.   DISCOVER HOW STRESSED YOU REALLY ARE  Take Lisa’s Mini Stress Assessment designed to support you in your journey to optimize your health by eliminating chronic stress.    COACH ME LIVE SESSION If today’s episode hit home, why not bring your question directly to the mic? Lisa is now offering complimentary Coach Me Live sessions where podcast listeners get coached live on air. If you’re building your wellness brand or just need clarity on your next step, this is for you. Request your Coach Me Live spot   LINKS AND RESOURCES — Visit https://www.lisaangelsmith.com/ to learn about our programs   FOLLOW ME — Instagram: @lisaangelsmith Facebook: @ThePlantBasedFoodie LinkedIn: @lisaangelsmith Website: https://www.lisaangelsmith.com/   RATE, REVIEW, & FOLLOW PODCAST – If you love the content and find it valuable, please consider rating, reviewing, and following my show! New episodes drop weekly, and if you’re not following, there’s a good chance you’ll miss out.

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